I use wire (wire. com) for daily chatting. I like it but I couldn’t find any good communities in wire. In session, or simpleX, there are privacy (and other) groups in which anyone can participate… Can we start a privacy group in wire so we folks can also hang around?
Yes please. Wire is definitely the best messenger currently avsilable, considering everything.
Whats with matrix?
It’s possible to disable encryption in Matrix. Some matrix clients dont even support encryption.
E2E Encryption is always on in Wire, no exceptions
And its centralized andnogt self hostable :D
Wire is self hostable. Both client and server are open source.
avoid matrix https://gitlab.com/libremonde-org/papers/research/privacy-matrix.org/-/tree/master/part1
XMPP it is.
Have you checked the XMPP default settings? Its not even e2ee
what are you talking about? XMPP doesn’t have such a thing as default settings. It varies from client to client. There are clients which have E2EE enabled by default, clients which make it available, others that support it with a plugin and there are others that do not support E2EE.
That’s no excuse to avoid XMPP. XMPP is an open standard, the key is choosing a good implementation.
Well the article you linked stated that as bad thing for matrix… Have you read the article? Just think about it the same way but with XMPP