Aren’t the Eldians supposed to be the persecuted minority in this analogy, with the Marleyians being the fascists who engaged in round ups and euthanization?
If anything, I’d say Eren Yeager is on his Stalin arc. An avenging angel (or perhaps devil) ready to wreck havoc in response to the attempted genocide. Even then, I think the core message of the story is that modern people must set aside their prejudices and fears or they will repeat the cycle of violence that consumed the generations prior.
Except that he attacked and genocided allied nations as well. And he also just killed billions of innocent people who had nothing to do with their governments policies and were heavily propagandised for a century. He also killed Eldians outside of Paradis who were kept in concentration camps.
Also the Eldians had a brutal empire which likely practiced apartheid and suppressed non Eldians. The hate by the outside world towards Paradis which was a ticking time bomb was justifiable.
I can kind of get the motivations of both sides in the story except Marley fucking around with Paradis even after the King of the Walls warned then not to and that he’ll start the Rumbling if they fuck around with Paradis. They directly started the chain of events by attacking Erens District and him seeing his mom getting eaten which just snapped his already psychopathic personality which ended up with him being starting the rumbling.
I kind of did like the fuck around and find out part of the story when the rumbling started initially on Marleys face but it soon became a far bigger thing which was just horrendous.
Except that he attacked and genocided allied nations as well.
Not yet, unless they’ve released the second half of the final season.
And he also just killed billions of innocent people who had nothing to do with their governments policies and were heavily propagandised for a century.
Sure, but that’s just war for you. The last few episodes had what amounts to a civil war breaking out on Paradise, with a number of the main characters turning on or subverting one another.
Also the Eldians had a brutal empire which likely practiced apartheid and suppressed non Eldians.
Ages ago. Modern Subjects of Ymir are locked in ghettos unless they agree to join the Marleyian war effort. In some of the flashback scenes they’re even dressed like ghettoized Jews. Nevermind how many Marleyians are explicitly German coded with the blonde hair and blue eyes.
Might as well say “Jews are the real fascists because of how awful the Pharisees were”
I kind of did like the fuck around and find out part of the story when the rumbling started initially on Marleys face but it soon became a far bigger thing which was just horrendous.
The original set up of the story is a conspiracy by the king to effectively euthenize the existing population. As the seasons unravel the mystery, you begin to see the deeper motivations of the various characters. And this all culminates in the revelation that the Subjects of Ymir are the cursed self-cannibalized offspring of a ruthlessly exploited slave girl.
The story is endlessly harping on the horrors of war, the hubris of ambitious men, and the horrible errors we make by acting rashly on incomplete information.
Eren’s Rumbling is the culmination in a nightmarish cycle of wars, enslavements, and bloody uprisings that become genocidal wars themselves. Each faction has some history or social narrative that justifies its subjugation or extermination of the other. Each faction has some enthusiastic hero whose initial climb to power is viewed as liberating, but who ultimately becomes more erratic and dangerous as they accumulate authority.
Sure, but that’s just war for you. The last few episodes had what amounts to a civil war breaking out on Paradise, with a number of the main characters turning on or subverting one another.
difference between casualties and having an army of giants kill literally everything in its path, with no survivors.
So many great anime characters and the first one they choose to do an interview is a fucking fascist lmao.
Coulda’ been Rei Ayanami.
To troll the question givers, she could forget what questions were already asked, clone after clone
Aren’t the Eldians supposed to be the persecuted minority in this analogy, with the Marleyians being the fascists who engaged in round ups and euthanization?
If anything, I’d say Eren Yeager is on his Stalin arc. An avenging angel (or perhaps devil) ready to wreck havoc in response to the attempted genocide. Even then, I think the core message of the story is that modern people must set aside their prejudices and fears or they will repeat the cycle of violence that consumed the generations prior.
Except that he attacked and genocided allied nations as well. And he also just killed billions of innocent people who had nothing to do with their governments policies and were heavily propagandised for a century. He also killed Eldians outside of Paradis who were kept in concentration camps.
Also the Eldians had a brutal empire which likely practiced apartheid and suppressed non Eldians. The hate by the outside world towards Paradis which was a ticking time bomb was justifiable.
I can kind of get the motivations of both sides in the story except Marley fucking around with Paradis even after the King of the Walls warned then not to and that he’ll start the Rumbling if they fuck around with Paradis. They directly started the chain of events by attacking Erens District and him seeing his mom getting eaten which just snapped his already psychopathic personality which ended up with him being starting the rumbling.
I kind of did like the fuck around and find out part of the story when the rumbling started initially on Marleys face but it soon became a far bigger thing which was just horrendous.
Big Spoilers On Everything Because Duh
Not yet, unless they’ve released the second half of the final season.
Sure, but that’s just war for you. The last few episodes had what amounts to a civil war breaking out on Paradise, with a number of the main characters turning on or subverting one another.
Ages ago. Modern Subjects of Ymir are locked in ghettos unless they agree to join the Marleyian war effort. In some of the flashback scenes they’re even dressed like ghettoized Jews. Nevermind how many Marleyians are explicitly German coded with the blonde hair and blue eyes.
Might as well say “Jews are the real fascists because of how awful the Pharisees were”
The original set up of the story is a conspiracy by the king to effectively euthenize the existing population. As the seasons unravel the mystery, you begin to see the deeper motivations of the various characters. And this all culminates in the revelation that the Subjects of Ymir are the cursed self-cannibalized offspring of a ruthlessly exploited slave girl.
The story is endlessly harping on the horrors of war, the hubris of ambitious men, and the horrible errors we make by acting rashly on incomplete information.
Eren’s Rumbling is the culmination in a nightmarish cycle of wars, enslavements, and bloody uprisings that become genocidal wars themselves. Each faction has some history or social narrative that justifies its subjugation or extermination of the other. Each faction has some enthusiastic hero whose initial climb to power is viewed as liberating, but who ultimately becomes more erratic and dangerous as they accumulate authority.
Oh boy another “everyone is an asshole and the world is shit, therefore just choose your favorite asshole to stan for” setting.
Plenty of likeable characters in the setting, but also lots of people who are failable and foolish all the same.
It’s not really about “Teams” either. More a mystery drama that reveals itself as characters interact and convey perspectives to one another.
The Birth of a Nation also had plenty of likeable characters, but also a lot of them were fallible and foolish all the same.
The Birth of a Nation could be seen as a bit of a mystery drama that reveals itself as characters interact and convey perspectives to one another.
Name one
As presented, and intended in its narrative, Abraham Lincoln. Even the Klan presented him as reasonable even to their interests.
difference between casualties and having an army of giants kill literally everything in its path, with no survivors.
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Its dramatic fiction with magic monsters.
So was Made in Abyss.
So was Goblin Slayer.
So was Gate.
So was Shield Hero.
You can enjoy things while also acknowledging that they sometimes have problematic elements that appeal to bad people too.
If your primary critique of Goblin Slayer was “main character was a little too fash for my tastes”… idk, man. That’s on you.
It isn’t.
If you’re going to cherrypick what I said in defense of your favorite cartoon, at least cherrypick what I said.