• Annoyed_🦀 A
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    191 year ago

    To you, me, and many of us, they’re a terrorist group, but to those who get stepped on by the Zionist for decades, who have their home bombed, who land got stolen, who families and relatives got killed, they are their only hope.

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      To you, me, and many of us, they’re a terrorist group

      To all of the groups that matter, they are a terrorist group.

      but to those who get stepped on by the Zionist for decades, who have their home bombed, who land got stolen, who families and relatives got killed, they are their only hope.

      Then they aren’t living as a government that deserves statehood. If a terrorist group is the one leading the country, that becomes the definition of that country.

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        To all of the groups that matter, they are a terrorist group.

        good way to say “they deserved to be wiped out, innocent or not”, which isn’t something shocking coming from war criminal apologist.

        If a terrorist group is the one leading the country, that becomes the definition of that country.

        Just like War mongering state of America and War Criminal state of Israel?

    • thatsage
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      -41 year ago

      Hamas isn’t their hope. If they were lead by a peaceful and sane govermant, instead of terrorists, Gaza would’ve looked so much better today.

      Hamas doesn’t care about Gaza and it’s people, the leaders are corrupt and living abroad, the money that’s meant for schools and services and infrastructure goes to their pockets or weapons, and the biggest prisoner of Hamas is Gaza itself.

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        Easy for you to type out such comment in your own comfortable chair, but for them, if Israel didn’t force them out of their own land and treat them like sub-human for decades, they won’t resort to rely on extremist.

        Want them to make better decision? Give them their land back, pay reparation fee, rebuild their destroyed facilities, in return disband and deradicalize. It took decades for a lot of wartorn country to get back on their feet and it’s no difference here. If you truly think Israel can wipe out Hamas with their bombs and violent, then you must’ve missed what happened to Afghanistan.

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          11 year ago

          Afghanistan was actually doing much better than it was under Taliban control. Women had rights, and weren’t living in fear. Reforms were happening. The whole country was moving in a positive direction.

          Until Trump fucked all of that up and made a deal with the Taliban to regain control again.

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          Israel definitely could have treated palastinians better, but not in matters of land… Israel didn’t force them out of their land. It was founded legally and went on to win territory in wars in which it was the defender and offered innocents to stay and gain citizenship.

          Later on, the palastinians didn’t agree to several 2 state proposals which Israel did agree to, thus relinquishing again the keys to their own future.

          Israel invested and invests into their infrastructure, which they don’t manage well usually, like the water treatment plans Israel transfered to them when exiting Gaza.

          Afghanistan’s story is not the same as that of Hamas and will not end the same, I hope as many innocent people of either side come out on top and have a chance at a peaceful future, with Hamas buried and gone.

          Gaza and Israel could normallize relations and Gaza could prosper.

          • Annoyed_🦀 A
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            Israel didn’t force them out of their land. It was founded legally and went on to win territory in wars

            The sheer amount of mental gymnastics here is astounding.

            Later on, the palastinians didn’t agree to several 2 state proposals which Israel did agree to

            I wonder why 🤔🤔🤔

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              Context you seem to leave out is wars of defense.

              • Annoyed_🦀 A
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                defence
                /dɪˈfɛns/
                -military measures or resources for protecting a country.
                “the minister of defence”
                -fortifications or barriers against attack.
                “coastal defences”

                i don’t see anything about defence with winning territory.

    • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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      -61 year ago

      They are their hope? By mudding over 1’000 innocent people? Well, looks like they fucked up. But I assume this is what Hamas wanted to begin with, since they don’t care about Palestinians at all.

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        Yep. Two group need to cease to exists for this war to end, Hamas and the Zionist. Both group goal is to eradicate each other, kinda like that two giant from Xenoblade Chronicle.

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          Except the only real guilty party there is Zanza, and they do end up living peacefully with each other once Zanza is removed.

          Hamas is Zanza.

        • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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          -61 year ago

          Hamas are the only group that can stop this, yet here we are, they do not even release the hostages! Israel could only stop this if they are destroyed. The same way Ukraine can not end the war with Russia, only Russia can do that.

          • Annoyed_🦀 A
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            41 year ago

            Nope, because the same way as Russia vs Ukraine, Russia and Israel is the main perpetrator and the oppressor.