Measurements from the Copernicus Sentinel-5P satellite show that this year’s ozone hole over Antarctica is one of the biggest on record. The hole, which is what scientists call an ‘ozone depleting area,’ reached a size of 26 million sq km on 16 September 2023. This is roughly three times the size of Brazil.
Do not get me wrong. I am in favor of going green but all I see is small car engines that designed to fail and less effective cooling.
almost all modern cars cannot provide cooling while idling at 50c. It got so bad to the point where we have businesses that solely exist to modify brand new cars to fit pre 2017 air compressors.
Home ACs are victims too.
On the other hand, airplanes kept flying empty for 3 months during COVID 19 to keep their slots reserved.
That we should go back to knowingly destroying the ozone layer because the lingering effects of our previous attempts at destroying it haven’t gotten completely better yet and that has had bad effects on air conditioning. Won’t anyone think of the poor deprived people forced to sit in their cars that are a sweltering 70 degrees Fahrenheit?
My point is consumers are squeezed to hell while the industrial sector is happily polluting the planet.
My car headlights are no less than $1k and not serviceable. Meaning if a bulb is out then I need to pay $1k and throw away a perfectly functioning plastic.
I did my homework before buying a car and almost all reliable manufacturers, including Toyota, is doing the same thing.
Climate activists should focus on these corps first.
You realize that banning CFC’s did have massive implications on industry right? Most CFC use was industrial. This comment really just shows that you’re clueless on the history of this issue. Consumer air conditioning was far from the only casualty. If we had not banned CFC’s then the ozone layer would be in an absolutely dire state today.
The Montreal Protocol is literally proof that if international governments wanted to they could come together and stop industry from destroying the planet, and you think we should roll that back for air conditioning? Give me a fucking break dude.
I see. That is an entirely separate discussion. Whenever you bring up air conditioning on a thread about the ozone layer everyone is going to assume you’re talking about the refrigerants.
Clickbait title aside, the article is about normal variations of the ozone layer caused by nature. There’s nothing that suggests humans are causing the increase, and the overall trend is still that the hole will close fully in a couple decades.
So we’re back to the 70s?
Do not get me wrong. I am in favor of going green but all I see is small car engines that designed to fail and less effective cooling.
almost all modern cars cannot provide cooling while idling at 50c. It got so bad to the point where we have businesses that solely exist to modify brand new cars to fit pre 2017 air compressors.
Home ACs are victims too.
On the other hand, airplanes kept flying empty for 3 months during COVID 19 to keep their slots reserved.
What is your point?
That we should go back to knowingly destroying the ozone layer because the lingering effects of our previous attempts at destroying it haven’t gotten completely better yet and that has had bad effects on air conditioning. Won’t anyone think of the poor deprived people forced to sit in their cars that are a sweltering 70 degrees Fahrenheit?
My point is consumers are squeezed to hell while the industrial sector is happily polluting the planet.
My car headlights are no less than $1k and not serviceable. Meaning if a bulb is out then I need to pay $1k and throw away a perfectly functioning plastic.
I did my homework before buying a car and almost all reliable manufacturers, including Toyota, is doing the same thing.
Climate activists should focus on these corps first.
You realize that banning CFC’s did have massive implications on industry right? Most CFC use was industrial. This comment really just shows that you’re clueless on the history of this issue. Consumer air conditioning was far from the only casualty. If we had not banned CFC’s then the ozone layer would be in an absolutely dire state today.
The Montreal Protocol is literally proof that if international governments wanted to they could come together and stop industry from destroying the planet, and you think we should roll that back for air conditioning? Give me a fucking break dude.
To clarify, I am not talking about r12 refrigerant vs r134.
When I say older cooling system / model i mean pre 2017 air compressor.
The new ones, 2017 and onwards, are designed for mileage per gallon.
I see. That is an entirely separate discussion. Whenever you bring up air conditioning on a thread about the ozone layer everyone is going to assume you’re talking about the refrigerants.
You’re right.
I edited my comment.
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Clickbait title aside, the article is about normal variations of the ozone layer caused by nature. There’s nothing that suggests humans are causing the increase, and the overall trend is still that the hole will close fully in a couple decades.