The slide’s authenticity was confirmed by a Navy spokesperson, who cautioned that it was not meant to be an in-depth analysis.
The slide shows that Chinese shipyards have a capacity of about 23.2 million tons compared to less than 100,000 tons in the U.S., making Chinese shipbuilding capacity more than 232 times greater than that of the U.S.
The slide also shows the “battle force composition” of the countries’ two navies side-by-side, which includes “combatant ships, submarines, mine warfare ships, major amphibious ships, and large combat support auxiliary ships.” The ONI estimated that China had 355 such naval vessels in 2020 while the U.S. had 296. The disparity is expected to continue to grow every five years until 2035, when China will have an estimated 475 naval ships compared to 305-317 U.S. ships.
Another section of the slide provides an estimate on the percentage each country allocates to naval production in its shipyards, with China garnering roughly 70% of its shipbuilding revenue from naval production, compared to about 95% of American shipbuilding revenue.
Because of China’s centrally planned economy, the country is able to control labor costs and provide subsidies to its shipbuilding infrastructure, allowing the Chinese to outbid most competitors around the world and dominate the commercial shipping industry, Sadler said.
Alternative title - “Central planning is more efficient than markets” confirms US Navy
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Siri, show me a map of US military bases globally versus Chinese bases.
China have nuclear weapons you can’t go to war with China.
Also China is not Nazi Germany stop comparing every country we’re geopolitically opposed to nazis
opposing the nazis was the last time the US was on the right side of something. Comparing things to nazis is like Al Bundy saying he threw four touchdowns.
back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile.
Comparing China to the Nazis is hysterical, and the Nazis were flat out colonial expansionists who were gunning to occupy basically the entire planet. China wants government control over Taiwan as a matter of reunification. It isn’t annexing Japan.
What are you scared China will do? They aren’t colonizing the world, they aren’t committing genocide, and they are way less likely to instigate hot conflict of any kind than their peers.
They’re scared China will develop the productive capital it needs to meet the needs of most of the world’s workers. American capitalists won’t have any way to justify their existence.
i think you’re giving them way too much credit
For sure. This is for the benefit of lib lurkers.
Like clockwork
Hey they are one of the few instances who haven’t de-fedded (lol) from hexbear and ive seen some good takes from users there so please dont be an instance-ist.
These dense dipshits are welcome to keep showing up for abuse and reeducation
Yeah I find it very entertaining, if not depressing
the only major leader who wanted to get rid of Nazism in the 1930s was Stalin. The west was fine with Hitler as long as his expansion didn’t interfere with western colonialism and/or caused war solely with the Soviet Union
Bruh your army went up against the Chinese in the 1950s and got smacked around when the PLA could barely scrape together enough planes or ships to credibly have an air force or navy.
Your military consistently loses to irregulars and militias fighting with small arms and improvised bombs.
Your MIC is dipping into its emergency artillery shell reserve after just 1 year of supplying Ukraine.
In 20 years we’ll be looking back at this and debating exactly which conflict was America’s Suez crisis.
what if they’re all America’s Suez crisis and America is doing the equivalent of Britain and France repeating the suez crisis over and over again
essentially this
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Yeah, you’re sure going to regret that your masters didn’t get your country nuked to oblivion
Something tells me you don’t care nearly as much about US imperialism
As opposed to the countries actively rooting for a genocide because it hurt the feelings of a vassal state?
Good.
Neither the French nor the British were too keen on stamping on Nazism because they saw Communism as the greater threat. When the Soviets tried to build an alliance to intervene against the Germans they were rebuffed at every turn.
Even as the Japanese was committing endless war crimes and atrocities in China, the Americans were happy to sustain their war economy with iron, steel, copper, and oil until it encroached on French interests.
I haven’t seen a Lemmy lib in ages it feels like. How did you get here?
MF wandered into the wrong instance lmao
just projectile projectioning all over the screen
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The time for regret is now. 20 years ago the US might have been able to defeat China but we certainly couldn’t manage it now. Neoliberalism has hollowed out the Military-Industrial Complex to the extent that the US just couldn’t sustain a major war, especially a naval one.
extremely critical support for Reagan and Ayn Rand for their tireless efforts to cripple American industrial capacity
Capitalism in the US had to evolve into the neoliberal finance capital outsourcing capitalism by the 80s. The by the 70s the economic growth from rebuilding industrial capacity globally was spent. Capitalism in the US was experiencing a massive profitability crisis, and finance capital and outsourcing (what I think of as the two pillars of neoliberalism) was how that contradiction was resolved.
But now neoliberal has squeezed as much juice out of the orange as it can. What happens next is up for grabs…
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I hope you cry about China so much tonight that your eyes bleed you stupid racist dog.
You say China wants to control everything like it’s a bad thing. The choice is socialism or barbarism. Pull your head out of your ass.
you say that, but have you considered that pee pee poo poo?
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