The slide’s authenticity was confirmed by a Navy spokesperson, who cautioned that it was not meant to be an in-depth analysis.

The slide shows that Chinese shipyards have a capacity of about 23.2 million tons compared to less than 100,000 tons in the U.S., making Chinese shipbuilding capacity more than 232 times greater than that of the U.S.

The slide also shows the “battle force composition” of the countries’ two navies side-by-side, which includes “combatant ships, submarines, mine warfare ships, major amphibious ships, and large combat support auxiliary ships.” The ONI estimated that China had 355 such naval vessels in 2020 while the U.S. had 296. The disparity is expected to continue to grow every five years until 2035, when China will have an estimated 475 naval ships compared to 305-317 U.S. ships.

Another section of the slide provides an estimate on the percentage each country allocates to naval production in its shipyards, with China garnering roughly 70% of its shipbuilding revenue from naval production, compared to about 95% of American shipbuilding revenue.

Because of China’s centrally planned economy, the country is able to control labor costs and provide subsidies to its shipbuilding infrastructure, allowing the Chinese to outbid most competitors around the world and dominate the commercial shipping industry, Sadler said.

Alternative title - “Central planning is more efficient than markets” confirms US Navy

    • star_wraith [he/him]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1239 months ago

      China wants to control everything

      Siri, show me a map of US military bases globally versus Chinese bases.

      PIGPOOPBALLS

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1079 months ago

      China have nuclear weapons you can’t go to war with China.

      Also China is not Nazi Germany stop comparing every country we’re geopolitically opposed to nazis

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      989 months ago

      Comparing China to the Nazis is hysterical, and the Nazis were flat out colonial expansionists who were gunning to occupy basically the entire planet. China wants government control over Taiwan as a matter of reunification. It isn’t annexing Japan.

      What are you scared China will do? They aren’t colonizing the world, they aren’t committing genocide, and they are way less likely to instigate hot conflict of any kind than their peers.

      • krolden
        link
        fedilink
        English
        59 months ago

        Hey they are one of the few instances who haven’t de-fedded (lol) from hexbear and ive seen some good takes from users there so please dont be an instance-ist.

    • ultraviolet [she/her]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      879 months ago

      the only major leader who wanted to get rid of Nazism in the 1930s was Stalin. The west was fine with Hitler as long as his expansion didn’t interfere with western colonialism and/or caused war solely with the Soviet Union

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      839 months ago

      Bruh your army went up against the Chinese in the 1950s and got smacked around when the PLA could barely scrape together enough planes or ships to credibly have an air force or navy.

      Your military consistently loses to irregulars and militias fighting with small arms and improvised bombs.

      Your MIC is dipping into its emergency artillery shell reserve after just 1 year of supplying Ukraine.

      In 20 years we’ll be looking back at this and debating exactly which conflict was America’s Suez crisis.

    • kot [they/them]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      779 months ago

      Yeah, you’re sure going to regret that your masters didn’t get your country nuked to oblivion

      China wants to control everything and they don’t care who gets in their way.

      Something tells me you don’t care nearly as much about US imperialism us-foreign-policy

    • Awoo [she/her]OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      70
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      China wants to control everything and they don’t care who gets in their way.

      Good. xi-lib-tears

    • zephyreks [none/use name]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      699 months ago

      Neither the French nor the British were too keen on stamping on Nazism because they saw Communism as the greater threat. When the Soviets tried to build an alliance to intervene against the Germans they were rebuffed at every turn.

      Even as the Japanese was committing endless war crimes and atrocities in China, the Americans were happy to sustain their war economy with iron, steel, copper, and oil until it encroached on French interests.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      679 months ago

      we

      Who is the “we” here, bootlicker?

      China wants to control everything

      You’re so busy licking boots that you don’t notice which global superpower has controlled everything since the end of the Cold War.

    • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      629 months ago

      The time for regret is now. 20 years ago the US might have been able to defeat China but we certainly couldn’t manage it now. Neoliberalism has hollowed out the Military-Industrial Complex to the extent that the US just couldn’t sustain a major war, especially a naval one.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          299 months ago

          Capitalism in the US had to evolve into the neoliberal finance capital outsourcing capitalism by the 80s. The by the 70s the economic growth from rebuilding industrial capacity globally was spent. Capitalism in the US was experiencing a massive profitability crisis, and finance capital and outsourcing (what I think of as the two pillars of neoliberalism) was how that contradiction was resolved.

          But now neoliberal has squeezed as much juice out of the orange as it can. What happens next is up for grabs…

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      439 months ago

      You say China wants to control everything like it’s a bad thing. The choice is socialism or barbarism. Pull your head out of your ass.