• Nobody wants Palestinians to die. They are in an impossible situation. But HAMAS has to be destroyed.

    I don’t understand what you are missing here.

    • @sederx@programming.dev
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      But HAMAS has to be destroye

      not really, i mean not like this. hamas 2.0 will rise from the ashes with the thousands of people being radicalized as we speak by war crimes.

      • That’s fine… And they will be allowed to exist until they murder, rape, behead children, kidnap hostages, and torture people.

        Then they have to be eradicated as well…

        No apologies for HAMAS.

        • @sederx@programming.dev
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          Then they have to be eradicated as well…

          you dont understand how this works right? this means constant terrorism threat for israeli people. how is that smart exactly?

          No apologies for HAMAS.

          ?? what do you mean i didnt see any apologies

          • What exactly is your point then? You think that HAMAS should be allowed to get away with their crimes because by fighting them it would create a second wave?

            I’m sorry but not good enough. HAMAS teaches Palestinian children that their greatest achievements in life is to sacrifice themselves in the great jihad. They wrap children in suicide vests and march them around on TV.

            Destroying HAMAS is protecting Palestinians. Collateral loss of life is a tragic cost of war… But the mission here is clear… destroy HAMAS, do not let them flee to their rat holes. HAMAS will always attempt to maximize civilian casualties. When will they release the hostages they are holding? These aren’t prisoners of war… They are civilians, non combatants… Why don’t we just start with HAMAS releases the innocent people they have taken hostage?

            • @sederx@programming.dev
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              31 year ago

              What exactly is your point then? You think that HAMAS should be allowed to get away with their crimes because by fighting them it would create a second wave?

              nope

              I’m sorry but not good enough.

              brother you are talking to yourself.

              Destroying HAMAS is protecting Palestinians.

              is it? with random bombing? because right now palestinians are dying and are not getting closer to freedom. Whatever replaces hamas now will have 10x forces which ultimately will hurt israeli and palestinians.

              the solution is OBVIOUS, you need to stop the oppression. no different that what happened in south africa. no oppression no reason for people to radicalize.

    • @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Nobody wants Palestinians to die. Not even people who throw bombs on them in hopes that there are hamas members somewhere among the population. They throw their bombs hoping they don’t kill anyone, that’s very advance wish-based system

      • It’s like you guys are just learning that war is terrible…

        People die in wars. Combatants, non-combatants, men, women, children, bystanders, supporters, journalists, doctors, criminals, religious people, atheists.

        We don’t want war… It’s bad.

        So if you don’t want war, you should conduct massive brutal attacks on civilian populations… Because that’s how you get war.

        HAMAS did this… They hold their own women and children at gun point inside of buildings they know Israel is about to strike to maximize the propaganda value out of the strike. The Arab nations refuse to allow Palestinian refugees to enter their countries in order to get them out of the conflict areas. Iran has purposefully financed HAMAS in order to allow it to disrupt the Palestinian Government and prevent any real opportunities for real sustainable peace. HAMAS build hospitals and schools with Iranian money… not to provide for the Palestinian people but to ensure they can wrap themselves in human body armor as they build caches and facilitation networks which is 100% in violation of international law and is not just criminal but utterly despicable.

        Meanwhile these groups and countries have never been shy at announcing that their only stated goal is the genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israelis and the destruction of the state of Israel.

        Who would have thought that all those years ago when Jordan and Egypt decided to take military action against a displaced refugee encampment all of those years ago that we would be at this point.

        Or when they did it the second time…

        Or the third time…

        It’s unreal that Egypt and Jordan just abandoned their own people in Israel and refuse to allow them to return to the nations they were originally citizens.

      • It’s like you guys are just learning that war is terrible…

        People die in wars. Combatants, non-combatants, men, women, children, bystanders, supporters, journalists, doctors, criminals, religious people, atheists.

        We don’t want war… It’s bad.

        So if you don’t want war, you should conduct massive brutal attacks on civilian populations… Because that’s how you get war.

        HAMAS did this… They hold their own women and children at gun point inside of buildings they know Israel is about to strike to maximize the propaganda value out of the strike. The Arab nations refuse to allow Palestinian refugees to enter their countries in order to get them out of the conflict areas. Iran has purposefully financed HAMAS in order to allow it to disrupt the Palestinian Government and prevent any real opportunities for real sustainable peace. HAMAS build hospitals and schools with Iranian money… not to provide for the Palestinian people but to ensure they can wrap themselves in human body armor as they build caches and facilitation networks which is 100% in violation of international law and is not just criminal but utterly despicable.

        Meanwhile these groups and countries have never been shy at announcing that their only stated goal is the genocidal ethnic cleansing of Israelis and the destruction of the state of Israel.

        Who would have thought that all those years ago when Jordan and Egypt decided to take military action against a displaced refugee encampment all of those years ago that we would be at this point.

        Or when they did it the second time…

        Or the third time…

        It’s unreal that Egypt and Jordan just abandoned their own people in Israel and refuse to allow them to return to the nations they were originally citizens.