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Vampire [any] to news@hexbear.netEnglish • 2 years ago

Putin says Russia ready to hold talks on the future of Ukraine

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Putin says Russia ready to hold talks on the future of Ukraine

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Vampire [any] to news@hexbear.netEnglish • 2 years ago
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President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine if they wanted to, but that Moscow would defend its…
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    • plinky [he/him]
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      Is the world ready to stfu out of iraq or west bank?

      • @jack55555@lemmy.ml
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        The American army is allowed to be there by the Iraqi government?

        • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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          127•2 years ago

          Lol: “The State Department on Friday made clear that the American military will not abide by the requests of the Iraqi government to leave the country and instead will stay indefinitely.”

          • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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            But I was told Obama got us out of there, CNN said so!

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            Lol he won’t respond to this

        • edge [he/him]
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          86•2 years ago

          So if Russia installs a new government in Ukraine and that new government allowed the Russian army to be there, would that be ok?

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          The Iraqi government the U.S. installed when they invaded in the first place?

          • @jack55555@lemmy.ml
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            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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              The previous regime which we also installed

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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              The previous government had running infrastructure, hospitals, electricity, clean water, etc. before the American regime bombed them and plunged the region into chaos so as to install puppet governments that allowed the U.S regime to pillage their resources and inflate the stock portfolios of the war criminals that run the American regime.

              Zero justification for supporting the actions of the American terrorist regime.

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                • emizeko [they/them]
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                  praising of a genocidal dictator

                  um nobody here is praising Joe Biden

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                • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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                  You’re really conflating seething hatred for America destroying a country with praise for Saddam Hussein? You reactionaries really can’t see in anything beyond binary terms, can you?

                  Saddam was fucking atrocious, but Iraq had working infrastructure under him (and his rise to power was aided by the US, so he was another pawn)

                  They had that torn apart courtesy of America and are only just building back

                  • Ideology [she/her]
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                    Sorry, we’re all out of empathy here in the west. Try getting better bootstraps, thirdworlders.

                  • @jack55555@lemmy.ml
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                    1•2 years ago

                    No I got no love for what the US and the allies did to Iraq, but what good is the the running water they had for the dead Kurds? From the start, my argument was they are better off now. Not that they are in paradise now.

                • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                  60•2 years ago

                  Hey quick question, what’s worse: opposing the US empire, or being the US empire and giving Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to attack Iran?

                • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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                  What the fuck? There isn’t a single word of praise for any thing or anyone in that comment are you this fucking delusional???

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                • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net
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                  Now the praising of a genocidal

                  What your feelings on the state of Israel?

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                  “oh shid oh fuck I wandered outside my echo chamber oh shiiiiiiiii”

                • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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                  I’m with you. It’s not fair to make judgments based on the material reality of people’s lives. You clearly said the word dictator, which means bad guy from an exotic locale. You won the argument. What are all these commies talking about?

                • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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                  40•2 years ago

                  The Iraq war and the aftermath probably killed more Iraqis than Saddam’s entire reign.

                  • Egon [they/them]
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                    29•2 years ago

                    Without a doubt. The war led to millions of deaths

                • Egon [they/them]
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                  39•2 years ago

                  Fucking libs, man. Give them the slightest push against their preconceived notions and they immediately start slinging shit instead of relating to the arguments at hand.
                  “Hey here’s some facts about how life was measurably better before we bombed the shit out of Iraq”.
                  “Whatever you love Saddam”.

                  You would have supported the Iraq war. You would have supported the Vietnam war. You would have supported the Kent state shootings. You would have eagerly reported local communists during the red scare.

                  Please acquire some critical thinking skills you cretin

                  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                    I remember when “Saddam lover” was something libs made fun of right wingers for throwing out willy nilly

                • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                  Bitch, you’re the one saying the genocidal slaughter and immiseration of millions of Iraqis is a good thing.

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              Iraq’s power grid took until 2008 to return to the capacity it could generate prior to the first Gulf War over a decade and a half prior where the US needlessly destroyed their power grid, and it still can’t meet demand in the summer

              It has depleted uranium in it’s groundwater from American munitions

              It had ISIS/ISIL attack it

              Millions were displaced, hundreds of thousands were killed, and it got privatized into oblivion by IMF/World bank loans with greedy contractors like Halliburton licking their chops

              I’m pretty sure it is much worse then it was pre American involvement

            • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net
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              There’s plenty of shitty government around the world, including a bunch the US actively supports. It doesn’t give the US the right to kick the door down and subject the people there to more instability and violence to further their geopolitical goals under the guise of “humanitarianism”.

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              The yank has an opinion on what constitutes democracy farquaad-point

            • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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              So if Russia installs a regime better than the current one, their invasion is ok then?

              Also lol at not knowing the USA installed the Iraqi government.

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              Dogbrain

        • egg1918 [she/her]
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          Is the American army allowed to be in Syria by the Syrian government too?

          • @jack55555@lemmy.ml
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            Is John allowed to eat Tom’s lunch?

            Fun, but can we stay on topic?

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              The topic is foreign interventions, Syria is about as relevant to that topic as you can get. You know this, you are intentionally avoiding engaging with his question cuz you know you don’t have an answer that won’t come off as a massive fucking stretch.

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                • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                  So illegal wars of aggression are ok?

                  • Adkml [he/him]
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                    When America does it yes.

                    This is what liberals actually believe.

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                  I’m sorry you think Iraq was worse off before the US and allies came in and murdered 2million people? Are you real?

                  You are a genuine monster.

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                • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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                  A topic completely unrelated to foreign interventions, then? cat-confused

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                  I wonder how Saddam got into power in the first place

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                  Damn I kinda wish I could have seen what this jackass commented before the mods took it down

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              You claim to want to stay on topic, but bring up people like “Tom” and “John”. Curious!

              (No well guy emoji? Wtf?)

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                very-intelligent

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                  Gah, I never get the keyword right.

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                    Finding some emojis has a very “ordering off the secret menu” vibe.

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                And lunch

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              Die Reddit brained genocide fan

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                  China’s life expectancy is higher than America’s, and is still rising while ours fàlls.

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                  Fucking lol if you think China is a bad place to live

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                  I wish I could live in China, have you seen their infrastructure? Have you seen their cities? Have you seen what they invest in?

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                  Idunno what you said, but I think you should fuck off for all eternity because you’re a Reddit brained loser

            • Krause [he/him]
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              sure: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/10/were-staying-us-tells-iraq-after-being-asked-leave

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          Which they installed?

          Like compare and contrast three events:

          Maidan - january 6 in usa

          Syrian civil war - ukraine civil war

          Invasion of ukraine - invasion of sector gaza

          Do the internal logic of events is similar? Which ones gets sanctioned, and which ones gets ignored?

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          The American army is allowed to be there by the Iraqi government?

          That is such a lie

        • @Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net
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          How’d that government get in power?

        • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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          oppa gangnam style

        • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]
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          The Iraqi government literally voted to have America withdraw and was ignored

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          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/1/5/iraqi-parliament-calls-for-expulsion-of-foreign-troops

          lol

          Liberals are constantly out of date on the most basic of information if it’s anything to outside of american borders. By literal years.

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            Msnbc and colbert didn’t include that in their explanation of why every country in the world other than America is wrong so liberals wouldn’t know about it.

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              Hey don’t forget about John Oliver, where would libs be without him?

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                He at least shits on dems for comedic effect which I realize is still useless but makes him 10x better than people pretending Kamela is effective and popular.

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          https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/05/world/soleimani-us-iran-attack/index.html

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        The We’re So Back to It’s Joever pipeline

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      Mr. Putaine you’re hashtag CANCELED

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        This is hashtag activism in action.

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      any day now…

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        “Get landlocked idiot”

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      Alright, who upbeared this loser? Show yourself, not funny even as a bit

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        I was just thinking recently that I’m super happy with Hexbears maintaining party lines on upbears when it matters, it does make the exceptions stand out.

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