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Vampire [any] to news@hexbear.netEnglish • 1 year ago

Putin says Russia ready to hold talks on the future of Ukraine

www.france24.com

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Putin says Russia ready to hold talks on the future of Ukraine

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Vampire [any] to news@hexbear.netEnglish • 1 year ago
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President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine if they wanted to, but that Moscow would defend its…
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    • Krause [he/him]
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      Except my country actually has a free press

      6 companies control all media in America

      doesn’t imprison detractors

      Julian Assange, and when they don’t imprison them they just straight up murder them like they did with Gary Webb

      and has released the verifiable evidence of war crimes being committed

      Like the incubator babies? Or maybe you mean Iraq’s WMDs

      The west doesn’t really need to do much propaganda

      lol, lmao

      dropping bombs on cities, targeting civilian buildings and infrastructure, and launching a full scale invasion of a sovereign country speaks for itself

      “The West” does all of this

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        • WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR [it/its]B
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          Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

        • Krause [he/him]
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          You claimed the West has free press and doesn’t imprison detractors, I gave you 3 examples of how this is not true, how is this “whataboutism”?

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            soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

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            • ShareThatBread [he/him, comrade/them]
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              Don’t be fucking coy. Name “your country”.

            • Krause [he/him]
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              Assuming of course you have unfettered access to the internet like I do.

              Do you? Click this link to find out: https://rt.com

              It’s blocked in the European Union, so a lot of people in “The West” do not have access to it.

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            • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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              Okay, what is this country that wouldn’t imprison Julian Assange? I don’t think it exists. I think you live in a country that would have imprisoned Assange and Edward Snowden.

              Which would make you a hypocrite.

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          Whataboutism was originally used to defend Jim Crow any time the Soviet Union brought up how amerikkka is an apartheid state

          Whataboutism is an inherently thought terminating idea, to not be able to compare two similar things is downright anti human

          No it may be worse than that, even insects can compare two things

          Says a lot more about you that you even use that as an argument

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            • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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              This will never stop being funny.

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            • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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              If you shouldn’t respond to bad faith with bad faith, what is the solution?

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                • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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                  No, I’m asking you for a solution to what you called a “problem with our logic”.

                  The problem with your logic is that “they did it first, so we’re going to do it second” leads to a never ending cycle of violence.

                  If you shouldn’t respond to bad faith with bad faith, what should you do?

    • voight [he/him, any]
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      Youtube — John McCain and Lindsay Graham tell neo nazis to cement the damage done by the 2014 coup and be their holy warriors against Russia https://youtube.com/watch?v=lMMvSiVkjfg

      https://invidious.no-logs.com/watch?v=lMMvSiVkjfg YT mirror for convenience

      They went and electrocuted babushkas through the kidneys. They build grandmas different in Donetsk so she kept on fighting. Online Ukraine supporters don’t have it in them. I’m surprised you haven’t moved back to trashing 🇻🇪 or something alteady considering things are going south. https://sputnikglobe.com/20230721/the-truth-about-ukrainian-war-crimes-against-donbass-civilians-1112031958.html

      https://thegrayzone.com/2023/12/11/ukrainian-maidan-massacre-false-flag/

      https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/07/17/the-lord-of-the-underworld-meet-the-paratrooper-from-north-carolina-who-orchestrated-the-war-in-ukraine/

      https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/02/03/how-a-network-of-nazi-propagandists-helped-lay-the-groundwork-for-the-war-in-ukraine/

      https://mronline.org/2022/06/13/how-monsters-who-beat-jews-to-death-in-1944-became-americas-favorite-freedom-fighters-in-1945/

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        I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

        • yewtu.be
        • inv.zzls.xyz
        • yt.artemislena.eu
        • piped.video
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        • voight [he/him, any]
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          Are you expecting people to take you seriously when you can’t read a few dozen pages? Aren’t you an adult?

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            • voight [he/him, any]
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              That an adult should be able to devote the attention span to read about something they pretend to care about, instead of demanding to be spoon-fed. That’s what you’re asking for, “can you break my food down for me first”.

              I’m capable of writing articles like these in practically no time at all. Instead of begrudging free information that’s suppressed by our fucking government with propaganda, why don’t you crack it open? But you’d rather be a child like every redditor and complain about being handed real solid gold.

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                • voight [he/him, any]
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                  Hey look, the guy who’s pretending to know shit and refusing to read what people reply with is talking about wasting people’s time!

                  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    pretending to know shit and refusing to read

                    The essence of modern liberalism

    • voight [he/him, any]
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      Before we begin wading through laborious examples of Ukrainian fake news, and their own deliberate terror bombing of civilians in Donetsk since they rebelled against the post-Maidan government, here’s a forensic takedown of the Bucha lie by the same guy who did the article I linked about the Maidan.

      https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/04/06/was-alleged-russian-army-massacre-of-civilians-at-bucha-actually-a-false-flag-event-staged-by-ukrainian-nazis/

      A simple look at the way Israel operates reveals what terror bombing against urban areas, rather than attacks calculated to limit casualties to limit the international & domestic fallout of Russian intervention in Ukraine, actually looks like. And it resembles exactly how the Ukrainians have used precision missiles to attack concerts and homes and community centers. It’s disgusting. The numbers speak for themselves, but thankfully we have enormous eyewitness accounts in Gaza and Donetsk of the horror. Western sources reported on it before we decided to go hard against Russia and it was reserved for people like Patrick Lancaster.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      Except my country actually has a free press, doesn’t imprison detractors, and has released the verifiable evidence of war crimes being committed

      doubt

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      doesn’t imprison detractors,

      bait

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