• XIIIesq
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    most authoritarian countries

    In the US, 0.7% of the population is in prison. That’s nearly one out of every hundred citizens and the highest per capita of incarcerated citizens in the world. Higher than Russia, higher than China, higher than North Korea.

    Land of the free indeed. Propaganda works.

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        Their vocational facilities and re-education centers are a far better way of managing and de-radicalizing extremist groups like the ETIM than fucking bombing them, invading them, and lying about WMDs.

        50+ mostly muslim UN states have approved of how China handled this after sending delegates and diplomats to Xinjiang:

        …separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights, including right to life, health and development. Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and deradicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers. Now safety and security has returned to Xinjiang and the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded. The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security. We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counter-terrorism and deradicalization.

        We appreciate China’s commitment to openness and transparency. China has invited a number of diplomats, international organizations officials and journalist to Xinjiang to witness the progress of the human rights cause and the outcomes of counter-terrorism and deradicalization there. What they saw and heard in Xinjiang completely contradicted what was reported in the media. We call on relevant countries to refrain from employing unfounded charges against China based on unconfirmed information before they visit Xinjiang.

        The only countries accusing China of mishandling this are its geopolitical rivals in the west. Muslim countries and the global south side with China on this.

        QiaoCollective has a detailed timeline and report of Xinjiang related events.

        BadEmpanada has an in-depth video essay on the topic with sources in description.

        • @Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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          -16 months ago

          You can also literally just visit Xinjiang and see it for yourself lol, since there’s not much travel restrictions on the region anymore now that covid’s mostly over.

          There are tons of Youtube videos doing just that.

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      In the US, people vote on laws, and the laws that put so many people in prison were massively popular until we realized “oh fuck there sure are a lot of people in prison and this problem isn’t solved at all.”

      I’ll take people democratically getting things wrong 100% of the time over “authoritarian regime that hasn’t come for you yet”

      So yes, land of the free, and free people sometimes do dumb shit.

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        This is such a precious yet tortured interpretation. We can all see that you are just stitching together little bits of rhetoric until it goes where you wanted to end up. You might be right, you might be wrong, but whatever you are, it’s a total fucking coincidence.

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          This is a description of actual events that actually happened. Nothing in my comment is an interpretation of anything whatsoever.

          If you don’t believe War on Drugs laws like the Crime Bill were popular, that’s simply because you’ve done no research. The 1994 bill now seen as “racist” had 58% support in the minority community, a trend that continued for some time.

          The cool thing about democracy is people can look around and say “oh shit we fucked up.” All you have to do is change enough minds.

      • XIIIesq
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        -26 months ago

        Is that better or worse than being shot because you’re a kid that went to school?

        • @BaardFigur@lemmy.world
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          16 months ago

          Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad I’m not american. But other than that, USA is very preferable over China

      • @Arelin@lemmy.zip
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        -26 months ago

        The amount of comically fake propaganda westerners will believe is hilarious lmao