• @acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      that’s not an answer. sure go ahead and kill oil production, make gas prices high and give trump the presidency again. see how that works out for the environment.

      • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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        I mean. It’s the only answer. You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”. It’s too late and it was too late 10 years ago. This isn’t just a US problem. This is global societal breakdown in the next 10 - 20 years.

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          11 months ago

          You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”.

          of course you can. the demand for oil/gas will be there regardless, people aren’t all going to stop driving ICE cars just because Biden cut all US oil production. it’s political suicide, not just for Biden but for US environmental policy in general.

        • @freeindv
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          Economic collapse is not an answer to anything. Let alone “the only answer”.

          All it does is highlight how big of a threat environmentalists are to society

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            11 months ago

            the economy is already collapsing. for us that is.

            also oil only means collapse because they made it mandatory.

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              Yeah the slowest environmentalists are the biggest threats to society too

              • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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                211 months ago

                Yeah man, it’s the environmentalists you gotta look out for, what with their wanting harmony among nature. I bet you’re fucking terrified of antifa too lmao.

                • @freeindv
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                  Yes, environmentalists are tools programmed to bring down society from the inside out. They believe that it’s noble to destroy society in order to save the environment

          • @WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml
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            -111 months ago

            Economic collapse may be the best answer. Endless production and consumption of goods may make people have material improvements to their lives but it is… excessive.