DE&I is about creating a space where all people have the opportunity to have similar end states. It is NOT about having everyone on equal footing at the start. It is recognizing that people have different starting points and that some of those starting points are heavily disadvantaged.
In engineering, for instance, Asian males make up the majority of grad students at many universities, and if not a majority then by far the highest minority. So their starting point when entering the workforce is much stronger than the majority of black people, or Hispanic people, or Native American people.
In college admissions, which is what this story is about, it is about looking at how difficult it is for a student to get to the point where they start college (financially and educationally). Asian Americans more frequently have strong families encouraging them and supporting them going to college. They more frequently have family support to get good grades in High School. They more frequently have the financial ability to augment loans to pay for college. So the thought is to give more help to communities that don’t have the same level of support.
If Asians make up 5% of the population but 15% of college students, while black people make up 10% of the population but only 3% of college students (all made up numbers), the point of DE&I initiatives are to help out those who are having harder times even getting to the starting line let alone finishing the marathon.
Given that some things are just facts that are common knowledge in my community, that’s deeply insulting. But fine, if it helps to have it spelled out…
So DEI to you should benefit minorities, but only specific types of minorities?
I’d like DEI to benefit all minorities. As things stand now, they usually only benefit blacks
DE&I is about creating a space where all people have the opportunity to have similar end states. It is NOT about having everyone on equal footing at the start. It is recognizing that people have different starting points and that some of those starting points are heavily disadvantaged.
In engineering, for instance, Asian males make up the majority of grad students at many universities, and if not a majority then by far the highest minority. So their starting point when entering the workforce is much stronger than the majority of black people, or Hispanic people, or Native American people.
In college admissions, which is what this story is about, it is about looking at how difficult it is for a student to get to the point where they start college (financially and educationally). Asian Americans more frequently have strong families encouraging them and supporting them going to college. They more frequently have family support to get good grades in High School. They more frequently have the financial ability to augment loans to pay for college. So the thought is to give more help to communities that don’t have the same level of support.
If Asians make up 5% of the population but 15% of college students, while black people make up 10% of the population but only 3% of college students (all made up numbers), the point of DE&I initiatives are to help out those who are having harder times even getting to the starting line let alone finishing the marathon.
What’s your source on that?
Well I’m an Asian…
…that’s not a source.
Fair enough, I guess my personal experiences don’t qualify me to speak for my group.
They don’t lol. Turns out your experiences don’t equate to everyone else’s.
Given that some things are just facts that are common knowledge in my community, that’s deeply insulting. But fine, if it helps to have it spelled out…
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-affirmative-action-and-asian-americans
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/asian-americans-and-pacific-islanders-are-often-overlooked-in-dei
https://aslopubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/lob.10408
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/magazine/where-does-affirmative-action-leave-asian-americans.html
Asian Americans are People of Color, Too. . .Aren’t They?
Are those enough, or would you like more sources? My story is hardly difficult to verify, but apparently weirdly controversial.
You must be pretty far up your own ass if you truly believe you speak for your entire race.
Two of your sources are opinion pieces. I’m currently reading the other since it’s an actual source.