• HACKthePRISONS
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    011 months ago

    if they don’t explain their methodology, there is no reason to believe they got it right

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      11 months ago

      then there’s no reason to believe they got it wrong.

      also they’re vague estimates, even bitcoin has a huge margin for error.

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        there is every reason to not believe them. they clearly have a motivation to paint power consumption as worse than is true, and the complexity of extracting the use of dogecoin mining from the rest of the mergedmine is, personally, unfathomable. maybe i’m dumb and there is a simple calculation that can be done, but without evidence of their methodology, i’m not going to believe them, and no one should.

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          411 months ago

          what’s the problem of estimating based on mined blocks and difficulty?

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            not everyone is merge-mining and even those who do may only be merge-mining specific chains.

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            it’s a bit like clocking your gas mileage to and from work, and then saying thats how much gas it took you to get out of your driveway.

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            -111 months ago

            the work that goes into mining those blocks should be discounted by the amount of energy that goes into mining every other merge-mined chain

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              11 months ago

              ok, so either ~1% figure already discounts this energy due to merge-mining, or it doesn’t discount and the effective energy consumption of Doge is lower. The original point remains: Bitcoin is pretty much the energetic problem of crypto, .

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                011 months ago

                asic miners are the problem with crypto’s energy consumption. nothing is wrong the the bitcoin protocol, which is functioning as expected.

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                  11 months ago

                  it’s just that PoW is trash when applied at scale for encouraging energy use to create consensus - and that’s by design - so indeed, “there’s something wrong with the protocol”.

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                    011 months ago

                    you seem to understand that the protocol can function without the massive power use but you seem to want to blame the protocol for the power use.

                    at this point, we have to agree to disagree.

                    have a nice day