So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can’t fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

  • @pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    -26•9 months ago

    What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

    You are advocating a known sexual predator be allowed in the workplace, knowing other employees are threatened by his presence.

    The company isn’t responsible for ensuring the rapist – who is not supposed to be in society in the first place – is able to put food on the table. It is the company’s responsibility to protect its workers in th workplace, and that means not letting a known rapist work around women.

    Honestly, those women could probably go complain to the EEOC. They certainly could win a civil suit.

    What you’re asking for is horrific and a blatant violation of the rights of other people. We don’t live under the barbaric practices of the 20th century where anything like this can just be done to you and you have to put up with it. We live in the 21st century where we recognize the rights of victims and communities are more important.

    Don’t like it? Do what you’re telling rape victims to do: get over it and move on.

    • @aidan@lemmy.world
      5•9 months ago

      Women aren’t the only victims of rape. Clearly he shouldn’t be allowed to work around anyone right? Actually he shouldn’t be allowed to live near anyone who could be at risk either. Actually he shouldn’t be allowed to go near anyone who could be raped. I think the Soviets already tried a prisoner only island and it didn’t work too well.

        • @aidan@lemmy.world
          3•9 months ago

          It’s not the company’s responsibility to employ him.

          I never said they did.

          There are plenty of jobs he can get where he doesn’t interact with anyone.

          Like?

          OP and the other workers have a serious, legitimate, valid fear of this asshole and their rights are fundamentally more important than his, because it’s their safety and security on the line, not his

          A lot of fears are valid, but that doesn’t necessarily justify acting on them.

          their rights are fundamentally more important than his

          That was true during his prison sentence. Now as much as he disgusts us, he has served his punishment and has his rights again.

          or by extension yours. He is not you The people at that job do NOT have to suffer his presence to appease you.

          What does this have to do with me?

          They do NOT have to endanger themselves by being around a fucking rapist!

          They can quit, they can force the employer to fire him, or they can tolerate it. Fundamentally, there is nothing he can change now to make himself more tolerable to his coworkers, and its not his employers job to punish him again.

          Their rights are being violated by virtue of him being there

          How?

          Would you want your cousin or your sister or your mother or your wife to work in a situation like that?

          Why is this the argument? Why can’t I have the option empathize with someone myself- why does it have to be a surrogate? But my mom was hospitalized 2 years ago after assault by a student who she still works with. Of course its terrifying know that could happen, but that’s why safety measures are put into place at her work place.

          rape apologia is good for us peasants too?

          Where did I apologize for rape? All I implied was that under the law he had served his time. He is now allowed to exist in society. If you believe in mandatory minimum of a life sentence for rape, that is a debate that can be had. But just like murderers, kidnappers, torturers, terrorists, and other horrific criminals, rapists are sometimes given a chance at freedom again. But you should separate wanting to protect people, and wanting revenge. Wanting revenge is a motive for criminal justice, but don’t try to hide it with an argument about protection and rights.