I get not wanting deal with every artist’s hidden history. But Adams is a well known and documented nut. Your comment is like wondering why people are mad at Roman Polanski and why you can’t just “enjoy” his movies. Sure you can, but I’m gonna judge you for it.
Do you not watch or enjoy any of the movies that Harvey Weinstein had his name or company attached to? Cuz it’s a shit load of films and stuff you are saying people shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy without being judged for it because that guy was a monster.
How is it different? He profited from it, did he not? Shouldn’t you feel bad or guilty for watching movies he got money from producing or having his name/company attached to, by your own logic?
If your local bar owner is a known child rapist, are you going to go and drink beers or order food at their bar?
Probably not, yeah? I mean, sure, it’s not like the beer or food did anything wrong, but why still go there and support their business when there’s another bar right down the street?
People don’t want to support a known racist, and would rather just go read any one of the other thousand+ comic strips out there.
I did hear today the first time about a man named Adams or Roman Polanski and I support OPs point. As long as the media I consume doesn’t reflect the authors political opinion I don’t care.
Would you judge me for playing minecraft because the creator of it is suddenly known for being racist?
Unfortunately, in a capitalist society, consuming media and products supports the creators and the media apparatus around them. So by contributing views/clicks/whatever, you benefit those people. If those people use their money/influence in a negative way (against marginalized communities or antivax or anti worker etc) then you are directly helping those causes. I still listen to CDs of some artists that have been found to be awful, but I won’t stream, or purchase merch, or event tickets. Everyone is going to draw their lines in different places, and we can’t avoid all harm. But own it. Trying to say that what you’re doing has no effect is intellectually dishonest
For example… Minecraft… The villagers are well known as a racist Jewish stereotype which directly reflects its former heads actual real racism against Jewish people.
This is not saying that Minecraft is bad, in the same way that the Goblins from Tolkiens stories don’t make Tolkien bad… But the art directly reflects the artist.
In something like Minecraft, there are too many hands in the pot at this point for a single voice to be the cause of writing off the whole game but with Adams, Polanski and Stone toss, there is no way to separate their art from them. They are the leading/sole voice and that voice is very easy to hear in what they write.
I get not wanting deal with every artist’s hidden history. But Adams is a well known and documented nut. Your comment is like wondering why people are mad at Roman Polanski and why you can’t just “enjoy” his movies. Sure you can, but I’m gonna judge you for it.
Do you not watch or enjoy any of the movies that Harvey Weinstein had his name or company attached to? Cuz it’s a shit load of films and stuff you are saying people shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy without being judged for it because that guy was a monster.
A little different to say Weinstein was as involved in say a Tarantino movie, as Polanski was in a Polanski movie.
How is it different? He profited from it, did he not? Shouldn’t you feel bad or guilty for watching movies he got money from producing or having his name/company attached to, by your own logic?
And you judge people on such grounds, but you will also be judged for doing so.
Sure. If I become a racist Maga bigot, or I rape a child like Polanski, I shall be judged for it. I accept that
If your local bar owner is a known child rapist, are you going to go and drink beers or order food at their bar?
Probably not, yeah? I mean, sure, it’s not like the beer or food did anything wrong, but why still go there and support their business when there’s another bar right down the street?
People don’t want to support a known racist, and would rather just go read any one of the other thousand+ comic strips out there.
I did hear today the first time about a man named Adams or Roman Polanski and I support OPs point. As long as the media I consume doesn’t reflect the authors political opinion I don’t care.
Would you judge me for playing minecraft because the creator of it is suddenly known for being racist?
Unfortunately, in a capitalist society, consuming media and products supports the creators and the media apparatus around them. So by contributing views/clicks/whatever, you benefit those people. If those people use their money/influence in a negative way (against marginalized communities or antivax or anti worker etc) then you are directly helping those causes. I still listen to CDs of some artists that have been found to be awful, but I won’t stream, or purchase merch, or event tickets. Everyone is going to draw their lines in different places, and we can’t avoid all harm. But own it. Trying to say that what you’re doing has no effect is intellectually dishonest
Edit: missed the 't in a can’t
All art reflects its artist.
For example… Minecraft… The villagers are well known as a racist Jewish stereotype which directly reflects its former heads actual real racism against Jewish people.
This is not saying that Minecraft is bad, in the same way that the Goblins from Tolkiens stories don’t make Tolkien bad… But the art directly reflects the artist.
In something like Minecraft, there are too many hands in the pot at this point for a single voice to be the cause of writing off the whole game but with Adams, Polanski and Stone toss, there is no way to separate their art from them. They are the leading/sole voice and that voice is very easy to hear in what they write.