Three men were arrested Saturday after the gang rape of a Spanish tourist on a motorbike trip through India's remote east with her husband, local media reports said.
Obviously the ideal number is zero and the US certainly has its share of problems, but this is reported rapes. I’m not going to paint myself as any sort of authority on the subject, but I’ve read enough stories where Indian law enforcement was complicit or unconcerned. I’d bet the actual numbers are a lot higher
I think this is valid perspective to add color to the discussion around the implicit claim that India has a disproportionately high problem of rape relative to other (usually developed) countirew and not an excuse for this incident. If anything it highlights the extent of rape in the US.
I’m not sure what the difference in rates of reporting is in both countries, but the rate of reporting has been rising in India, so seeing increased rates of reported assault on the short term could also be a good thing.
Are you saying US LEOs are on top of their game when it comes to handling cases? Or that women in the US do not feel repercussions for reporting rape cases?
According to those numbers, US has ~73x more. So even if one in 73 is reported, it will match the US. In the end, all you have is that brown people = rapists, terrorists etc. Not saying it’s you, it’s the decades of racist propaganda.
Remember, transphobia with a feminist slant is still transphobic. Racism with feminist slant is still racist.
Every “-ism” you listed isn’t solely the dominion of white folks. You’re sort of falling into the same mindset you’re accusing me of possessing by calling me out for saying India has a problem. The US also has a problem. Both suck and neither excuses the other, but I have firsthand accounts from femme friends who have had sketchy encounters in South Asia. As someone who is not white and has a non binary partner, you are free to eat the entirety of my brown ass
I explicitly said it was not you but propaganda lol.
femme friends who have had sketchy encounters in South Asia
So we went from stats to “trust me cos my friends told me”. Let me guess, your friends also clutch their pearls around sketchy (read “anyone who is not pure white”) people?
So the article (from 2 presidential administration’s ago) details someone who wouldn’t accept male Indian interns due to the country’s reputation. It does nothing to debunk the argument that rape is not an endemic problem in India, just that some shithead German professor threw the baby out with the bathwater. Okay, fine. We can get #NotAllIndians trending even tho I’m pointing out that it’s a cultural issue, not a race thing like you keep trying to shoehorn into this discussion.
By your arguments you’re saying article like this are bullshit hysteria with zero basis in reality? Cool. That take is super chill and not victim blamey at all. I mean, these “victims” were probably asking for it. Got it
Anyhow, I’m also not going to travel to the horn of Africa, chunks of the middle east, North Korea, Belarus or Gary Indiana for that matter. I’m just too closed minded I guess.
So when white people say racist things, it’s a one off shithead person. But when brown people do crimes, it must be in their culture, got it.
We can get #NotAllIndians trending
How about we don’t make it about their skin color or “culture” so that we wouldn’t have to do?
By your arguments you’re saying article like this are bullshit hysteria with zero basis in reality?
Not bullshit, never claimed that. Only thing I’m saying is that violence against women is a problem everywhere, not special about Indians. And making it about them is unhelpful and harmful.
That take is super chill and not victim blamey at all. I mean, these “victims” were probably asking for it. Got it
Oof damn talk about putting words in my mouth. Crazy that you want to die on this hill so bad and all based on “the data is wrong” and “my friends said they were sketchy”. Since you are resorting to things I didn’t say to attack me, I’ve realized that this is a waste of time. Good luck - make sure to practice your bigotry in silence, though - unlike this shithead professor but like thousands of professors who are not shithead enough to put it in writing. That will definitely help everyone.
Obviously the ideal number is zero and the US certainly has its share of problems, but this is reported rapes. I’m not going to paint myself as any sort of authority on the subject, but I’ve read enough stories where Indian law enforcement was complicit or unconcerned. I’d bet the actual numbers are a lot higher
I think this is valid perspective to add color to the discussion around the implicit claim that India has a disproportionately high problem of rape relative to other (usually developed) countirew and not an excuse for this incident. If anything it highlights the extent of rape in the US.
I’m not sure what the difference in rates of reporting is in both countries, but the rate of reporting has been rising in India, so seeing increased rates of reported assault on the short term could also be a good thing.
The whole world is extremely sexist and brutal to women. That is clear and undeniable. The problem is when things happen in PoC countries, it gets attributed to their skin color and wide generalizations are made. For example - https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2yfd88/indian_student_claims_german_professor_denied/
This is someone who said it loud, imagine how many do it silently.
Are you saying US LEOs are on top of their game when it comes to handling cases? Or that women in the US do not feel repercussions for reporting rape cases?
According to those numbers, US has ~73x more. So even if one in 73 is reported, it will match the US. In the end, all you have is that brown people = rapists, terrorists etc. Not saying it’s you, it’s the decades of racist propaganda.
Remember, transphobia with a feminist slant is still transphobic. Racism with feminist slant is still racist.
No. I’m pretty ACAB across the board.
Every “-ism” you listed isn’t solely the dominion of white folks. You’re sort of falling into the same mindset you’re accusing me of possessing by calling me out for saying India has a problem. The US also has a problem. Both suck and neither excuses the other, but I have firsthand accounts from femme friends who have had sketchy encounters in South Asia. As someone who is not white and has a non binary partner, you are free to eat the entirety of my brown ass
Namaste
I explicitly said it was not you but propaganda lol.
So we went from stats to “trust me cos my friends told me”. Let me guess, your friends also clutch their pearls around sketchy (read “anyone who is not pure white”) people?
Cannot think of why someone who is not white would do such mental gymnastics to defend blatant racism. At best it does not help and worst leads to things like this - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/09/german-professor-rebuked-for-discrimination-over-indias-problem
So the article (from 2 presidential administration’s ago) details someone who wouldn’t accept male Indian interns due to the country’s reputation. It does nothing to debunk the argument that rape is not an endemic problem in India, just that some shithead German professor threw the baby out with the bathwater. Okay, fine. We can get #NotAllIndians trending even tho I’m pointing out that it’s a cultural issue, not a race thing like you keep trying to shoehorn into this discussion.
By your arguments you’re saying article like this are bullshit hysteria with zero basis in reality? Cool. That take is super chill and not victim blamey at all. I mean, these “victims” were probably asking for it. Got it
Anyhow, I’m also not going to travel to the horn of Africa, chunks of the middle east, North Korea, Belarus or Gary Indiana for that matter. I’m just too closed minded I guess.
So when white people say racist things, it’s a one off shithead person. But when brown people do crimes, it must be in their culture, got it.
How about we don’t make it about their skin color or “culture” so that we wouldn’t have to do?
Not bullshit, never claimed that. Only thing I’m saying is that violence against women is a problem everywhere, not special about Indians. And making it about them is unhelpful and harmful.
Oof damn talk about putting words in my mouth. Crazy that you want to die on this hill so bad and all based on “the data is wrong” and “my friends said they were sketchy”. Since you are resorting to things I didn’t say to attack me, I’ve realized that this is a waste of time. Good luck - make sure to practice your bigotry in silence, though - unlike this shithead professor but like thousands of professors who are not shithead enough to put it in writing. That will definitely help everyone.