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davel [he/him] to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish • 1 year ago

Paris Marx: The TikTok ban is all about preserving US power

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davel [he/him] to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish • 1 year ago
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The platform isn’t a national security threat, but a challenge to Silicon Valley’s dominance
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    • davel [he/him]OP
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      We know the 2016 election was fucked with through Facebook and not a damn thing has been done.

      Okay I’ll beat that dead horse.

      • IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
      • Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
      • Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
      • Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
      • Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
      • Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
      • Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
      • Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
      • MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
      • Jeff Gerth at Columbia Journalism Review on Russiagate: Editor’s Note | Part one | Part two | Part three | Part four
      • Matt Taibbi: WMD, Part II: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
      • Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
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        how do i nominate your for a commendation?

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        Seems pretty cherry picked. From the Wapo regarding Twitter:

        But the study doesn’t go so far as to say that Russia had no influence on people who voted for President Donald Trump.

        It doesn’t examine other social media, like the much-larger Facebook.

        Nor does it address Russian hack-and-leak operations. Another major study in 2018 by University of Pennsylvania communications professor Kathleen Hall Jamieson suggested those probably played a significant role in the 2016 race’s outcome.

        Lastly, it doesn’t suggest that foreign influence operations aren’t a threat at all.

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          It doesn’t examine other social media, like the much-larger Facebook.

          Facebook Partners With Hawkish Atlantic Council, a NATO Lobby Group, to “Protect Democracy”

          All of the US corporate social media platforms are part of the US military-industrial-intellegence complex now. Look at their boards of directors and executives. Look at Reddit:

          • Jessica Ashooh: The taming of Reddit and the National Security State Plant tabbed to do it
          • A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
          • r/neoliberal was created by a neoliberal think tank » BPR Interviews: The Neoliberal Project

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          TikTok as well. We’ve known since Snowden that US “cloud”/hosting companies are deeply embedded. The US already forced them to move their service to the US onto one of those providers, and they have already put people with a history of aligning with “American interests” into executive positions, like CEO Shou Zi Chew and vice president Michael Beckerman.

          They have their eye on the fediverse now, too: Atlantic Council » Collective Security in a Federated World

          As I’ve said before, the threat has always been coming from inside the house:

          • https://lemmy.ml/comment/8912549
          • https://lemmy.ml/comment/8913172

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          Lastly, it doesn’t suggest that foreign influence operations aren’t a threat at all.

          One can’t prove a negative, and I’m sure there isn’t literally nothing that has happened or will ever happen. But trying to propagandize the voters of the most propagandized country in the world probably isn’t the most efficient way to go about it. Bribing politicians surely would be more efficient, for example.

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      We definitely need to legislate the way that they operate and make the majority of the corporate surveillance that is happening now illegal. Facebook should face consequences, as should Google, Reddit, and all the others. That doesn’t mean that we ignore TikTok though. We should address problematic companies both domestic and foreign. But only one of those companies is partially owned and heavily influenced by an oppressive foreign government.

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      It didn’t but you’re still correct about the rest of your comment.

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