• capital
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    23 months ago

    Racism is a threat.

    The right: “Saying fuck the police is a threat”.

    • Flying Squid
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      13 months ago

      You can make this argument about anything.

      The left: “Healthcare is a right!”

      The right: “Gender confirming care isn’t health care.”

      All you are arguing for is maintaining a status quo which has been responsible for countless murders and assaults and rapes and all sorts of other oppression because the right might find a way to abuse something even though we have a real-world example of that not happening.

      • capital
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        13 months ago

        The left: “Healthcare is a right!”

        Feel free to point this one out to me in the Bill of Rights the way you can free speech.

        • Flying Squid
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          23 months ago

          Again, free speech is not a legal absolute, so your argument that it is an absolute based on the Constitution doesn’t work. There are already restrictions on speech.

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            I didn’t say it was absolute. I’m well aware there are restrictions.

            Your example of healthcare just makes no sense in this context.

            Not using the state to stop the sharing ideas we think are disgusting IS bedrock of free speech. And the ACLU used to think so even back when the KKK was far more active and overt.

            • Flying Squid
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              13 months ago

              If there are restrictions, then one of those restrictions can be “racism is not allowed.”

              There are hate speech laws in many countries. The U.S. is not a unique and precious snowflake that is unlike every other country on the planet and therefore unable to do the same things they do.

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                23 months ago

                I edited too late previously but I’d like to remind you of the arrests that were made for criticizing King Charles III in the UK. Maybe you don’t but I would also like to go on being able to say “fuck Trump” or whoever is president at the time.

                Your faith in the US to ban the right speech is naive.

                • Flying Squid
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                  03 months ago

                  So you do think America is a unique and precious snowflake that somehow can’t apply laws that are found in many other countries.

                  • capital
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                    23 months ago

                    Dude… Take one single look at our healthcare and gun control situation compared to every other first-world country. How can you be this blind?