Cross posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/13351707

Australia’s prime minister has labelled X’s owner, Elon Musk, an “arrogant billionaire who thinks he is above the law” as the rift deepens between Australia and the tech platform over the removal of videos of a violent stabbing in a Sydney church.

On Monday evening in an urgent last-minute federal court hearing, the court ordered a two-day injunction against X to hide posts globally containing the footage of the alleged stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel on 15 April. The eSafety commissioner had previously directed X to remove the posts, but X had only blocked them from access in Australia pending a legal challenge.

Anthony Albanese on Tuesday said Musk was “a bloke who’s chosen ego and showing violence over common sense”.

“Australians will shake their head when they think that this billionaire is prepared to go to court fighting for the right to sow division and to show violent videos,” he told Sky News. “He is in social media, but he has a social responsibility in order to have that social licence.”

“What the eSafety commissioner is doing is doing her job to protect the interests of Australians. And the idea that someone would go to court for the right to put up violent content on a platform shows how out of touch Mr Musk is,” he said.

  • @wahming
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    325 days ago

    Sure. If the Christchurch group or Aussie govt wants to call them out for not honouring their agreement, shame them, kick them out, whatever, that’s fine. I’m all for that. Fuck Xitter. I fully understand there’s nothing noble about their motives. There is however a difference between that and legally forcing a platform to censor content worldwide. Australia is claiming legal authority over the entire world, how do you not see the issue there?

    • Onno (VK6FLAB)
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      325 days ago

      I think that the specifics matter. Specifically this video on that platform. I am fairly sure that the court will say the same thing. Again, I’m not a lawyer.

      Xitter is pretending that this is about free speech and censorship.

      It’s not.

      The eSafety commissioner hasn’t asked to remove an objectionable cat video, it’s asked to remove a terrorist video.

      If this was a video depicting CSE the world would not even take a breath to demand its immediate removal.

      Xitter is being disingenuous in its argument and its signature to the Christchurch Call just serves to further highlight that the individual in charge doesn’t believe that rules apply to him.

      • @wahming
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        125 days ago

        Xitter is pretending that this is about free speech and censorship.

        It’s not.

        Yes it is. Especially considering that Xitter is an American company and this is legal by American law, again, Australia is overstepping its authority. It doesn’t matter that Musk is a PoS. It doesn’t matter that I personally want the video gone myself. What matters is Australia does not have the legal authority to make decisions affecting the entire world.

        Your comparison to CSE is disingenuous as CSE is illegal worldwide, or at least in every country that matters. This video is not.

        • Onno (VK6FLAB)
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          25 days ago

          You do know that the USA is also a signatory to the Christchurch Call?

          It agreed to (among other things):

          “Counter the drivers of terrorism and violent extremism by strengthening the resilience and inclusiveness of our societies to enable them to resist terrorist and violent extremist ideologies, including through education, building media literacy to help counter distorted terrorist and violent extremist narratives, and the fight against inequality.”

          Law works by mutual agreement. This is how our global system hangs together. Just because this is being spearheaded by an Australian process, doesn’t make it apply only to Australia.

          This same process happens every day across the world. The only difference here is that the person on the other end is pretending that this is about free speech.

          Where’s the hue and cry from all the other platforms who just took it down? Are they perhaps more aware of how this works?

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          Perhaps this is stating the obvious, but the Christchurch Call came into existence after a terrorist massacre was livestreamed from Christchurch. It’s not a random website, it’s the New Zealand government response to that event.

          Mutual obligations, agreements and treaties are what bind us together legally. Within the legal framework in Australia, CSE and terrorist video are the same, both considered Class 1. My reference to CSE was deliberate. From an Australian perspective they’re one and the same. Different countries can argue that they’re not, but that process is ongoing.

          Finally, courts making decisions that affect others happens all the time. Just look at the abortion mess currently playing out across courts all over the USA, not just from the SCOTUS down, but between states as well.

          This is the very same thing, it’s just happens to be a country border, not a state one.

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          It’s not like the USA hasn’t done this to others either. Right now it’s making laws to force a company in another country to sell an asset, TicTok.