If we consider post-mortem rights to matter morally, then something like necrophilia or defiling someone’s body after their death would be immoral even if they don’t experience it (obviously) and even if they don’t have any family or loved ones around to witness it or know that it happened. As an extension of themself, their dead body has intrinsic moral value as far as an obligation to treat it respectfully in accordance with what the person would have wanted or been okay with, not merely instrumental value that it serves to loved ones or the environment. And since we consider a person to have more moral value than the environment (otherwise it could be ethical to kill people to remove their environmental impact), even if it was more harmful to the environment to dispose of a body in a certain way (e.g. standard burial or cremation) over other methods, it would then still be ethical to dispose of it in a way the person either opted for or was likely aware would be done, rather than a less commonly known/practised and more invasive yet eco friendly method such as sky burial (putting their body on a mountain top and letting vultures tear it apart).

In other words someone’s bodily autonomy extends into death because they lived in their body their whole life, have a personal attachment to it as part of their identity, and just as they likely wouldn’t want it violated while alive (even if they were asleep for example), also likely wouldn’t want their body used for something disrespectful or really anything other than a standard form of interment (process of disposing of a body or putting it in a final resting place) that they would probably be aware would happen when they died, or is as generally uninvasive/dignified as possible, unless they specifically consented to something different or made a particular request for what would happen to their body.

IF all of the above is considered true, then (or just in general) wouldn’t it be unethical/disrespectful or a rights violation to preserve a human’s shrunken head for hundreds of years and then have it in an oddity collector’s shop to sell it to people to display in their houses?

  • @LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    176 months ago

    I don’t really agree that people should have post-mortem rights. The only reason such things matter at all is how the still living feel about it.

    People might be upset by the existence or display of such artifacts, and it might be better to respect those feelings. But the former head owner is gone and I don’t think their wishes matter anymore.

    • @DragonWasabiOP
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      So is necrophilia acceptable if the person doesn’t experience it and no one is around to see it?

      If not I don’t really see why necrophilia is unacceptable but using a person’s distorted and preserved body as a display item is acceptable.

      Doesn’t the consideration of what a person would have wanted/not wanted to happen to their body after their death matter? While someone is alive, even when unconscious (asleep), it is a violation to exploit or violate their body in some way without their consent. Why is it that as soon as someone dies and loses physical control of their body, we should no longer respect their bodily autonomy and it’s now fair game to do what we want with it? That’s still their body that they may have felt uncomfortable with people doing things to.

    • the former head owner is gone

      Do you think we should be able to do the same with people who suffer with Alzheimer’s disease or senility since they are technically “gone”? What about Down syndrome since their wishes are not on the same level as ours? Where do you draw the line?

      • BubbleMonkey
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        356 months ago

        Being literally dead, as in no brain or heart activity, is a pretty good place to draw a line… totally fixes your slippery slope.

      • @LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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        16 months ago

        Uh no lol I don’t agree with those cases at all. They’re still people with feelings that should be respected. Once they’re dead that ceases to be the case. It’s not really that gray of an issue.