That was almost 2 decades back. The movie going experience has been permanently changed, for better or for worse, after the pandemic. He isn’t wrong when he says people won’t go to theaters for a new IP. That, plus all the rage clic bait that bashes any new thing even before it release, regardless of quality, that plagues the internet nowadays paints a grim enviroment for the movie industry.
Movies (or movie style, more properly said) changes all the time. I don’t get what are you trying to say here. But just because animation has gotten considerably better, it doesn’t mean they are different. As an example: luca (one of recent pixar films) has the same style and charm as brave (pixar movie from 10+ years back) and as toy story (pixar movie from 20+ yeara back). All of them capable of making me cry. Their animation style has gotten better and more polished, but they beat with the same heart. But luca (a post pandemic film) didn’t amass the same number of people to the theaters, because people are finding more convenient to wait for streaming.
I haven’t seen Luca, and never planned to. Disney destroyed a huge amount of goodwill by making mindless live-action reenactions and low quality sequels. I just didn’t plan on betting my time on a Disney movie without somebody recommending it.
And yes, this is what changed. All the movie studios consolidated on a handful, and that handful got a reputation of only pushing shit to the theaters. Added to that, the theater experience got worse and worse for decades, to the point that people don’t really want to go there, they only go for the movie. And on top of that, the theaters have competition nowadays.
People keep blaming it on the pandemic, but I don’t think it’s even relevant.
I mean, you are literally the living example of what i said in the other comment: mindless rage dictated by the opinions of influencers withouth nothing of substance. You admitted yourself you never watched that movie and here you are spewing word vomit. Remember that the opinion of the masses is not the truth, and even more so in something as subjective as art. Then you ask yourself where this decadence is coming from.
You said it yourself that you were holding on to watching luca because nobody told you! That’s literally waiting on what everybody says before forming your own opinion. Don’t get me wrong, i’m not saying you are FORCED to like it, but rather than you should be the one making that decision.
Also, saying you are burnt out with disney because of crap movies is also deeply subjective. Other people may not think their recent movies are crap, after all they are really not that different from the stuff they did earlier. What makes you think they are, though? You provided no grounds as to why you think that, you just said it. Maybe you should re evaluate what role nostalgia plays in this, but really pixar movies have not changed as much a you seem to think.
And again, i mean no hostility to you and i get why you might hate a giant corporation like disney. But generalizing in the way you are doing, without regards to nuance, is one of the reasons the movie industry is as it is now.
The thing is that ‘actually good’ is something subjective, and that it WILL change what it means person to person. What happens nowadays is that every piece of media will be analized extensively for every possible flaw (and if none, create some), which will be magnified online as negativity promotes engagement. You can see this happening daily online, with everything. Then, the way the online hivemind works, people will associate these ‘flaws’ with the media product and society will enforce its opinion on the average user. It’s a meme to be negative about something, and our brains like to be part of the ‘in-group’ so it also feels good. You can see examples of this on every cult classic that was hated when it came out.
That was almost 2 decades back. The movie going experience has been permanently changed, for better or for worse, after the pandemic. He isn’t wrong when he says people won’t go to theaters for a new IP. That, plus all the rage clic bait that bashes any new thing even before it release, regardless of quality, that plagues the internet nowadays paints a grim enviroment for the movie industry.
The movies changed. Moviegoes only reflected the change back.
Movies (or movie style, more properly said) changes all the time. I don’t get what are you trying to say here. But just because animation has gotten considerably better, it doesn’t mean they are different. As an example: luca (one of recent pixar films) has the same style and charm as brave (pixar movie from 10+ years back) and as toy story (pixar movie from 20+ yeara back). All of them capable of making me cry. Their animation style has gotten better and more polished, but they beat with the same heart. But luca (a post pandemic film) didn’t amass the same number of people to the theaters, because people are finding more convenient to wait for streaming.
I haven’t seen Luca, and never planned to. Disney destroyed a huge amount of goodwill by making mindless live-action reenactions and low quality sequels. I just didn’t plan on betting my time on a Disney movie without somebody recommending it.
And yes, this is what changed. All the movie studios consolidated on a handful, and that handful got a reputation of only pushing shit to the theaters. Added to that, the theater experience got worse and worse for decades, to the point that people don’t really want to go there, they only go for the movie. And on top of that, the theaters have competition nowadays.
People keep blaming it on the pandemic, but I don’t think it’s even relevant.
I mean, you are literally the living example of what i said in the other comment: mindless rage dictated by the opinions of influencers withouth nothing of substance. You admitted yourself you never watched that movie and here you are spewing word vomit. Remember that the opinion of the masses is not the truth, and even more so in something as subjective as art. Then you ask yourself where this decadence is coming from.
Well, I guess being burned up by crap is “mindless rage”, and first person experiencing it is being “dictated by influencers”.
You said it yourself that you were holding on to watching luca because nobody told you! That’s literally waiting on what everybody says before forming your own opinion. Don’t get me wrong, i’m not saying you are FORCED to like it, but rather than you should be the one making that decision.
Also, saying you are burnt out with disney because of crap movies is also deeply subjective. Other people may not think their recent movies are crap, after all they are really not that different from the stuff they did earlier. What makes you think they are, though? You provided no grounds as to why you think that, you just said it. Maybe you should re evaluate what role nostalgia plays in this, but really pixar movies have not changed as much a you seem to think.
And again, i mean no hostility to you and i get why you might hate a giant corporation like disney. But generalizing in the way you are doing, without regards to nuance, is one of the reasons the movie industry is as it is now.
People will go for new IP it just has to be actually good. And also marketed well. It seems like movie marketing hasn’t changed since the 2000s.
The thing is that ‘actually good’ is something subjective, and that it WILL change what it means person to person. What happens nowadays is that every piece of media will be analized extensively for every possible flaw (and if none, create some), which will be magnified online as negativity promotes engagement. You can see this happening daily online, with everything. Then, the way the online hivemind works, people will associate these ‘flaws’ with the media product and society will enforce its opinion on the average user. It’s a meme to be negative about something, and our brains like to be part of the ‘in-group’ so it also feels good. You can see examples of this on every cult classic that was hated when it came out.