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Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

“But I still want to get paid for it.”

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    4 hours ago

    We just need to be advocating for solutions that go beyond what capitalist markets can offer.

    Most of the people posting here currently live under capitalism. Unless you have solutions you want to advocate for now that for some reason you left unsaid in your post, it sounds more like a “stop complaining” proposal.

    • @cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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      21 hour ago

      That’s not what I’m saying though. It’s more that I think arguing for better protections under IP law is akin to participating in get out the vote campaigns for democrats. If the goal is to better conditions for working people including artists, neither of those avenues will lead you anywhere.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        11 hour ago

        Again.

        Post your your supposed “solutions” to advocate for.

        Otherwise you still read like you’re a treat printer enjoyer that wants everyone to stop complaining, no matter how the planet burns.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        54 hours ago

        I haven’t seen that for some time, unless you’re broad brushing people that don’t like when artists stop getting commissions or lose their livelihoods entirely.

        • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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          34 hours ago

          people are in this very thread saying that AI is “stealing” art. I fundamentally think that this reinforces the idea of IP

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            64 hours ago

            In the current economic system you’re saying that artists trying to get paid for making art should effectively cease to exist.

            • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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              44 hours ago

              I mean I don’t mind artists setting up patreons or doing commission, but I also don’t really care if something they post publicly gets “stolen”

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  33 hours ago

                  I just noticed that you’re arguing with a 4 day old account that name-dropped me in the title of one of his own threads. sus-soviet

                  • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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                    23 hours ago

                    man never thought I’d have the honor to be randomly attacked for no reason because you got into an argument with me, I was unaware there was a rule against deleting your accounts and making new ones every so often to make yourself harder to doxx. I namedropped you because we literally talked about AI the night prior and i thought you would find it funny

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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                    23 hours ago

                    No attacking artists for trying to avoid having their work (labor) stolen is lib shit. I am not arguing with you because there is nothing to argue about with a liberal.

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                24 hours ago

                Feel that way if you must, but I am explaining why a lot of people here aren’t quite as bazinga for the treat printers when it comes to driving artists entirely out of the craft because of economic precarity, consequently leading to even more expansion of the bland and bleak brave new world of treat printers.

                • combat_doomerism [he/him]
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                  14 hours ago

                  the vast majority of artists don’t make money doing art and never will if they don’t work at a company I don’t understand this take. maybe it’s because I’m so into fanfiction but like there will always be millions of people making more art than you know what to do with. I’m not saying you have to like the AI art, most of it really is quite shit which is a fine criticism that companies are blowing billions on shit art but like they do it either way, I think the best criticism of AI treat machines like you’ve said is how environmentally wasteful it is

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    34 hours ago

                    the vast majority of artists don’t make money doing art and never will if they don’t work at a company

                    Are you so certain of that?

                    I don’t understand this take

                    You may be more correct there than you realize, especially regarding my first question there.

                    maybe it’s because I’m so into fanfiction but like there will always be millions of people making more art than you know what to do with

                    Yeah fanfiction is cool and good but there really are people, from paid-by-commission artists to graphic designers to writers under publisher contracts that are all affected by treat printers. Their material conditions have worsened and precarity has increased. “You got yours,” so to speak, but that doesn’t mean you speak for everyone else there. Losing a job sucks; that shouldn’t be hard for you to understand.