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The Movement for Settlement in Southern Lebanon said the settlement of the area will bring ‘true and stable security to northern Israel’

    • Nougat
      55•2 months ago

      The only thing being pointed out there is that the settler group Uri Tzafon is not directly associated with the Israeli government. The article posted here doesn’t say that they are.

      Sure, this fringe group may be taking advantage of Israel’s incursion into Lebanon for their own purposes, but the fact that the Israeli government doesn’t say “Hey, cut that shit out,” is telling. I would further expect that when “settlers” (occupiers) decide to take up residence in another country and then rightfully get kicked the fuck out of that country by force, that the Israeli government/military might then protect them in Lebanon. All while still saying “Oh, they’re not at all affiliated with the Israeli government!”

      • @scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7•1 month ago

        this fringe group may be taking advantage of Israel’s incursion into Lebanon for their own purposes, but the fact that the Israeli government doesn’t say “Hey, cut that shit out,” is telling

        It sure is. It’s telling the exact same story the West Bank has seen play out for decades now.

      • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4•2 months ago

        settler group Uri Tzafon is not directly associated with the Israeli governmen

        Isn’t that way we call them settlers?

        • @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          9•2 months ago

          For me settling is primarily about stealing land. I’m not so concerned about the “legal status” of that theft under the thieves’ regime.

            • @scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6•1 month ago

              They’re definitely Israelis. Are they agents of the government? Well this is a little subtler than you might think. No they are not on government payroll. Yes they hang on their government’s week to week, mile by mile policy posture toward settlement and constantly take as much as they can get away with without alienating that government. It’s such a tight relationship that yes, you should effectively hold the government responsible for their behavior.

              • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2•1 month ago

                It seems I am wrong. I thought certain settler groups weren’t Israeli citizens to begin with.

    • @givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      30•2 months ago

      …

      The movement’s founder, Professor Amos Azaria, told Middle East Eye that: “Having a proper border based on the Litani river, or the Zahrani [river], will not only allow proper control over the border, but will in fact shorten the border as it becomes more of a straight line.

      You can easily Google that guy

      But maybe your problem is the source?

      Do you trust an Israeli news agency more? Not sure why anyone would, but here you go.

      https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-18/ty-article/.premium/lebanon-part-of-the-promised-land-israels-messianic-right-wing-targets-new-territory/00000190-2b9d-d340-a1f8-2b9d18220000