• FuglyDuck
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      3910 days ago

      fun fact… killing jesus was always god’s plan. god set adam and eve up in the garden specifically so he could LARP as a Nice Guy™. In fact, not killing jesus would have condemned humanity to eternal suffering, and therefore would have been sin. Not that anyone had a choice, because it’s all part of god’s plan, right, and god’s plan always comes to fruition.

      If you believe in that sort of thing.

        • @thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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          1410 days ago

          you say that now but when the (checks current feelings are still, oh good) flames of (checks notebook on latest revisions, hahah stupid assholes) HELL are kissing your feet while a succubus sits on your face and… ok brb this is fuckin hot…

        • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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          229 days ago

          The Abrahamic god is literally a war god. It evolved from El and Yahweh, members of the pantheon of the polytheistic Canaanite religion. El is the father of all gods and Yahweh is a weather and war god. So yeah no wonder that the Abrahamic god does crazy evil shit. Like killing all first born sons.

        • FuglyDuck
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          79 days ago

          Fortunately; if god is real he got bored with this particular video game and moved onto some thing more exciting.

          • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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            49 days ago

            Yep, we’re living in God’s ant farm and he’s a bored toddler. And one day he’ll show up with a magnifying glass and have a laugh.

        • @brax@sh.itjust.works
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          410 days ago

          Doesn’t the Bible go on and on about how the devil is the great deceiver? Seems accurate considering how many people think God was the good guy.

        • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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          19 days ago

          My belief is that, if there ever was a god, he looked at the world he created and died of Christian pity.

      • StinkyFingerItchyBum
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        19 days ago

        Jesus, who came back from the dead? Like a zombie? Zombie Jesus is lord. I worship a zombie cult? I need to rethink my life.

        • @flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          29 days ago

          It’s well known that since he came back from the dead but he didn’t decay or lose intelligence or anything, that Jesus was a lich.

      • @A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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        810 days ago

        Even the pope is just a church organ. I meant, his “policy” if you will was more than just his own. It’s doubtful that Vance’s visit (I will run with the idea*) will bring forth a more conservative pope.

        * “Rep. Nancy Mace (…) bizarrely insisted that a visit by U.S. Vice President JD Vance did not lead to the pope’s death.”

        • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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          59 days ago

          It’s highly likely the next pope will be conservative. There are different factions within the Vatican (and the church as a whole) and they get turns putting their guy in the big chair.

          • @flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Francis appointed a majority of the voting cardinals. This isn’t a democracy, where people have groups that lobby in any meaningful way- the Pope is the supreme executive. Like a dictator.

            So either he appointed in a stupid fashion, and the next pope is more conservative, or he appointed wisely, and the voters follow him with someone equally progressive in view.

            (Progressive here, of course, is very, very relative.)

            And to be clear, it’s not like, a slim majority. Of the 135 cardinals who will be voting for the next pope, Francis appointed 108 of them.

            Don’t get me wrong- some of those have been quoted as saying some super backwards shit. But statistically, I would put my bet on “around about the same.”

      • @biofaust@lemmy.world
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        39 days ago

        Francis said that judgement should be suspended on gay individuals and theorized a gay cabal in the same sentence. That’s different than being kind to them.

    • FuglyDuck
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      3710 days ago

      I’m very afraid that the next pope will be somebody American catholic bishops would approve of. a trans hating, immigrant-hating asshole who will excuse everything Nazi America does like that one nazi pope did historically

      • @Airowird@lemm.ee
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        610 days ago

        80% of the conclave was appointed by the Pope. I doubt it’s gonnabe a radical chnge in the Vatican.

      • @A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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        510 days ago

        Do you seriously think the Vatican is influenced by MAGA? Or by European far-right elements for that matter?

        It’s no coincidence, no outlier, that the last one was slightly more tolerant on certain issues. (Apparently enough to piss off more than one US christofascist.) I fear MTG will not see God’s plan in whatever follows, either.

        • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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          The American Catholic church hierarchy is reactionary and many of them are allied with MAGA. Think of shit-stains like Alito. Even Vance has converted to Catholicism, and there’s no way a twised fuck like him signed onto anything that promotes compassion or human decency. He’s more likely in it for the smell of incense, the Latin Mass, the Inquisition and the ancient tradition of diddling altar boys.

        • FuglyDuck
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          59 days ago

          Do you seriously think they’re not?

          Do you really think the cia/nsa doesn’t have compromat? Or that Putin doesn’t?

          Or that rich fucks like musk can’t buy a priest?

          Are you really so confident the organization that made a deliberate effort to protect men who sexually assaulted children is going to do the right thing because it’s the right thing?l

          • @A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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            Just to be clear, I’m not defending the Catholic Church here. At all. Just calling out USians who think the world revolves around their country.

            • FuglyDuck
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              revolves around? no. I don’t think that at all.

              but I do know that roughly 28% of annual contributions come from the US, that the US is fourth on the list of ‘most Catholics’ by total numbers and the vatican would be pretty stupid to ignore those two points. and that is not even coming close to the question of corruption or doctrine.

              Are they going to completely capitulate? probably not, but that doesn’t mean there’s no influence, either. Further, the vatican still opposes trans lifestyles doctrinaly, and Francis was the first pope to emphasize pastoral care over doctrine. It would not be difficult to imagine that conservative voices push back against that shift.

              Thus I’m concerned that the next guy won’t be as supportive of trans as Francis was. Remember, Francis ruffled more than a few feathers with his progressiveness, not just american bishops (who are straight up assholes.)

        • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          You do realize that there will be American cardinals involved in the voting process, right?

          The Pope himself could end up being from the US.

      • @straightjorkin@lemmy.world
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        Francis appointed most of the college of cardinals, and I find it unlikely he’d appoint someone so ready to buddy with fascism, so we will likely still have a liberal pope.

      • @straightjorkin@lemmy.world
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        Francis appointed most of the college of cardinals so more than likely we will get another woke pope. Hopefully this one is even woker.

    • @Echinoderm@aussie.zone
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      But the next pope may be far more conservative than Francis, who by Catholic Church standards was unusually liberal.

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    4810 days ago

    This is the result of 40 years of Jerry Springer, Judge Judy, Rush Limbaugh, and all the other Right Wing Grifters that followed.

    They know the lowest of us love cruelty as comedy.

    • SeeMarkFly
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      And for some odd reason they are ALL avid voters.

      • Geetnerd
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        1010 days ago

        Because they want to belong to “The Team.”

    • @A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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      910 days ago

      Let’s not forget Alex Jones, still holding on with this bare teeth claiming “The State” is after him. (heard a curated interview with Fucker Carlson yesterday, what a cringefest)

      • Geetnerd
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        19 days ago

        Speak not of the Devil, lest he raise his head…

        • @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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          19 days ago

          You’re conflating all branches of Satanism into just the one where edgy atheists try to trigger theists. There are plenty of versions that believe in a creator-tyrant God.

      • RoundSparrow @ .ee
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        No, Good Christians know God made Evil and that’s why they’re Satanists

        Good literate and understanding Christians know how to read the Bible and understand it is fiction storytelling, as is clearly spelled out. It is not a non-fiction history book. It is science fiction storytelling, very inspiring, like George Lucas Star Wars inspires people.

        1. Bible verse John 1:1 - God is language and only language, God is words and only words, God is memes and only memes.

        2. Bible verse “1 John 4:20” - how “I love Jesus” is wrong, how “I love God” is wrong, You can not love a fiction character in a story you have never seen, all hate of living human persons is wrong.

        3. Bible verse '1 John 4:20" - repeating for emphasis: hate of all living human persons is wrong. Hate is bad.

        No, Good Christians know God made Evil and that’s why they’re Satanists

        In the Bible storytelling, verse Romans 11:32 - www.Romans1132.org website I created to educate people on this topic - you will see it is plain as day that the story character “God” is the origin of all sins and that all sin is forgiven with mercy.

        But ideas beyond Twitter-length mockery and mocking take a little more effort than snark and insults.

        The Tower of Babel metaphor of humanity is one of the most important concepts in understanding why people behave the way they do over language usage and differences in interpretation. I created a Lemmy community for you @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social so you can better understand the complexity problems of diverse use of human languages in writing and verbal, electric media communications / media ecology study, and even body languages. Tower of Babel Lemmy community: !BabelTower@lemm.ee

         

        Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) celebrated following the death of Pope Francis on Monday.

        I was born in Columbus Georgia and my brother Jeff lives in Georgia currently. There is a serious problem with Bible Literacy. I created a Mastodon electric media platform hashtag hashtag Bible Literacy Crisis on the topic.

        Dr. Martin Luther King Jr was a world-famous preacher in Georgia. We should be helping her better understand how to comprehend the imported Levant Bible storybook and not just using social machines to mock and dehumanize Marjorie Taylor Greene.

         

        ::: ______________
        The Baptist Georgia governor won a majority of evangelical Christian voters in the 1976 presidential election. Next time around, those voters had changed sides—for the long haul.“Before this sustained propaganda barrage, however, many of those questions had not yet acquired any hard-line partisan or denominational coloration—indeed, in 1973, when the US Supreme Court handed down its decision sanctioning the individual right to abortion, Roe v. Wade, Carter’s own Southern Baptist conference issued a statement supporting the ruling. Instead, Carter became vilified among religious conservatives for several specific policy decisions.”

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            What a sad, pathetic waste of time this comment was.

            I see you are giving Twitter-length one-line reaction comments at least 4 times so far on this Lemmy posting (“‘Evil is being defeated by God’: Marjorie Taylor Greene celebrates after Pope’s death”). Anything beyond Twitter-thinking length must be too much for your mind right now. I’m sorry you suffer from such literacy problems and egoism, it is very common on Lemmy, Reddit, Bluesky, Twitter that people have such low literacy that they are only able to react in negative ways when they can’t comprehend a topic.

            This sort of problem of Twitter-length literacy simple-think “Hate Harder” values and reactions to complexity has even overtaken the White House in January 2025 where I live, the United States of America. It’s a very sad and sick situation I am living under in April 2025 :(

             

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            “In America, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and it is certainly useful to have a few when a pollster shows up. But these are opinions of a quite different roder from eighteenth- or nineteenth-century opinions. It is probably more accurate to call them emotions rather than opinions, which would account for the fact that they change from week to week, as the pollsters tell us. What is happening here is that television is altering the meaning of ‘being informed’ by creating a species of information that might properly be called disinformation. I am using this world almost in the precise sense in which it is used by spies in the CIA or KGB. Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading information–misplace, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial information–information that creates the illusion of knowing something but which in fact leads one away from knowing. In saying this, I do not mean to imply that television news deliberately aims to deprive Americans of a coherent, contextual understanding of their world. I mean to say that when news is packaged as entertainment, that is the inevitable result. And in saying that the television news show entertains but does not inform, I am saying something far more serious than that we are being deprived of authentic information. I am saying we are losing our sense of what it means to be well informed. Ignorance is always correctable. But what shall we do if we take ignorance to be knowledge?” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985. !BackTo1985@lemm.ee

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                TLDR

                “Too long, I can’t read beyond 3 words”

                Literacy problems abound, many people can no longer read printed paper books. Neil Postman’s 1985 book “Amusing Ourselves to Death” covers that problem.

    • @Delphia@lemmy.world
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      How dare you insinuate that JD VANCE KILLED THE POPE, there isnt a single shred of evidence that JD VANCE KILLED THE POPE. Id like to see anyone claiming or even hinting that JD VANCE KILLED THE POPE take their evidence straight to Interpol so that it can be disproven categorically by trained experts that JD VANCE KILLED THE POPE.

    • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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      The poor pontiff wasn’t used to being face-to-face with that level of evil and egotism. And he didn’t think Vance would try to strangle him: “A message from Ratzinger! Bwahaha!”

    • @wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works
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      She hated him because he was at least a little ok with some LGBT.

      I hated him for being the leader of one of the biggest, most corrupt organizations ever to exist on the planet.

      We are (fucking definitely) not the same.

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    Oh face of evil,

    Oh Marjorie Trailer Queen,

    The evil you know,

    Is the evil you’ve seen.

    Oh face of spite,

    A reflection so mean,

    The ugliest sight,

    Is the one you preen.

    Oh face of shame,

    A soul so obscene,

    The monster you blame,

    Is the one you’ve been.

  • NutWrench
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    239 days ago

    If God exists, then why does he destroy the faith of millions by allowing MTG to live?

  • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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    If it were true that God defeats evil, Empty Greene would be a smouldering pile of ashes at a crossroads by now.

    Karma is what we make it. The world don’t care.

  • Chozo
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    Next week:

    Margarine Trailer Queen: “What do you mean there’s another pope?!”