• @VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world
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      Hey at least the one and only time he went low and broke decorum was so he could pardon his own son. And the other 1200 people a week later when he realized how bad the optics were.

      And just to get ahead of those people. I’m not necessarily mad he pardoned his son. I’m mad there only time he broke decorum was for his own personal interests and not the American people’s.

  • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    On one hand, he’s not wrong.

    On the other hand, he can fuck off. He had internal polling showing him losing in a landslide and he still hung on for far too long afterwards, sabotaging efforts to build a winning campaign by the eventual nominee. Biden is the man who lost the fucking republic through his vanity and hubris.

    • @GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Biden is the guy that was given the biggest stick in history, and then just meekly handed over to one of the worst bullies in history.

      Fuck. Joe. Biden.

      • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, when the SC hands you unlimited power while a fascist dictator is waiting for his second chance at office… You use that fucking power.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      Technically the SCOTUS gave immunity for official acts only.

      Official acts being clearly outlined as up to the sole discretion of…

      wait for it…

      The SCOTUS.

    • @entwine413@lemm.ee
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      It didn’t even have to be official. He’s old enough he would have died of old age before seeing jail time.

    • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Yeah dude, and I’m sure “he was going to win and build concentration camps within 3 months, I swear!” would totally have been a sufficient explanation for everyone.

      People on this site are so fucking dumb, I swear.

      • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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        He doesn’t need to explain. Whatever he did wouldn’t have been illegal if it was an official act. Also Trump is demonstrably a fucking traitor so he could have used that as justification.

            • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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              We were pretty sure right up until one didn’t.

              Trump is dead set on making sure that only one thing can a stop him. No one should be surprised when it happens.

        • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          And the American citizens (especially the ones who hate Biden with a passion, and already stormed the Capitol once) would totally be fine with Democrats assassinating political opponents on live television.

          For Christ sake, who upvotes this shit???

          Please tell me it’s just like one dude with 10 alt accounts…

          • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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            Doesn’t matter what they’re fine with. Biden had a blank check to deal with them however he saw fit if they tried something. They were at least actually traitors unlike the people Trump is persecuting.

  • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    I don’t think anyone wants to hear from Biden at this point. He by all accounts did his level best to put his ego ahead of the good of the people of the country which did nothing but help further Trump’s talking points.

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      I want him out there speaking at events, raising money for the campaign trail. They’re off to a great start, honestly, it’s only April 2025 and they’re consistently making nationwide news.

      I voted for Harris, I would have voted for Biden again, and I think anybody who doesn’t see the logic in that is incredibly foolish and just in general a disappointment.

      Trump would be out of our lives now and forever if enough people understood what was at stake.

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    Fuck you, Biden. You got us here. YOU did breathtaking damage to the republic, because you and the rest of the non-fascist politicians were so unforgivably out of touch that you lost the fucking republic. Please die and save us your bloviating idiocy.

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        Two things can be true at the same time.

        Yes: the people who were so fucking sick of the status quo that they refused to vote do carry a large share of the blame here.

        But the DNC is ABSOLUTELY guilty of perpetuating that caustic status quo in the face of clear public desire for change, because they were mostly too interested in the money machine they were a part of.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        An option so terrible that being not Trump was not enough to get it to the White House.

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          How was Harris a terrible option?
          Or was it because she is a woman, and because of her color?

          USA got what they deserved.

          Yes Biden was maybe mediocre, but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office? It wasn’t Biden that elected Trump, it was the Americans.
          Blaming Biden for it is idiotic.

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            She was offering 50k tax breaks to small business and 20k down payments for first time home buyers, great on paper. But 70% of Americans work paycheck to paycheck, so they can’t utilize that. And her healthcare for all became healthcare for some became expanding the ACA. So no help for the majority of people.

            And when asked if she’d change anything, she declined. But then suddenly changed her mind and said she’d add a Republican to the cabinet. Further alienating the 70% of people that work paycheck to paycheck and anyone who understand what Republicans are. Can’t forget parading around with good ol Liz too. Really winning with that one.

            When asked the simple question of “Should trans people exist?” Her answer was they should follow the law. Disgusting. Unwilling to acknowledge somes right to exist in hopes of courting centrists. Instead pushing away both sides.

            Her and Biden continued the genocide despite loud outcry from progressives. If progressives are such a tiny a faction that they aren’t worth catering to with policy, then you can’t be mad when you didn’t get their vote. And if you think it’s their fault the Dems lost then you should still be mad at the Dems for alienating them.

            Honestly I agree with you that the US got what it deserved. But not because of its vote, rather because what we’ve become. Your options are continuing the status quo (ya know that one with 70% of people being pay check to pay check) or fascism. There was no right choice for most people. And I find it funny how privileged libs are to think there was.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness
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            Sigh. Gaza genocide? Immigration, including the border wall? Most lethal army in the world? The total lack of commitment to a serious social welfare plan (by election day her promises were all either completely ignored or watered down beyond recognition)? Her disdain for all her voters left of Reagan and especially the massive anti-war faction? Including Republicans in her cabinet? "Nothing comes to mind? I try not to be rude in these interactions, but you should think before you say these things. Harris 2024 was going to accomplish nothing except be an appetizer for Trump 2028, because she had nothing to offer to the people who were hurting and looking for anything resembling help.

            but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office?

            Who do you want to justify their actions to you? It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not; it happened, it was always going to happen and whenever someone tried to prevent it people like you would scream “but fascism” not realizing they’re only helping the fascists.

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              Sigh. Gaza genocide?

              For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump? Trump doesn’t give a shit, and doesn’t even criticize Israel for that. It’s the most moronic argument there is, yet it’s still pushed?!

              It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not

              You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point. Why would you think they are responsible to anybody else for their vote?

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                Democratic flavored genocide wasn’t enough for the Lemmy progressives so they aggressively campaigned for Trump to really ramp things up.

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                For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump?

                Point me to where I said it was.

                You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point.

                Why? i never told anyone to vote for Trump.

      • @grue@lemmy.world
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        Biden is also the only person to fail to ensure a coup-leading traitor got prosecuted and thus presided over the fall of US democracy. I’ll go as rough on him as I can for that, thank you very much!

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        I’m just gonna say it. The only reason Biden won was because Trumps response to covid was so abysmal that people were genuinely spooked. Had covid not happened I think Biden would’ve lost. Part of me also thinks we’d be in a better spot rn had Trump won in 2020 since the right wouldn’t have had four years to consolidate and get more extreme.

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          Yeah I agree. It would have been 4 years of BS, but nothing like this. He had 4 years to plan. We would be enjoying a democrat as president today.

      • He BARELY scraped a victory against the most unpopular incumbent since Ford pardoned Nixon, if not ever. He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage than Hillary did when she lost the EC.

        He ABSOLUTELY does not deserve credit for barely passing the lowest possible bar and then digging a hole under it for Harris to fall into.

    • @Pandemanium@lemm.ee
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      Still? Fucking really? Supporting Palestine is now fucking thought crime, and you’re still saying genocide Joe not genocide Donny? Gtfo.

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    Whatever dude. Biden can go lick a light socket for all I care. He knew this shit would happen and did absolutely nothing about it for 4 years then when it came time to let Kamala run he fucked her over on his way out and condemned us to this.

  • @N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I sometimes think about what would have happened if Biden stood up to the DNC bosses in 2016 and ran in the primary. He probably couldn’t do much against the Clinton machine, but maybe just enough to make it more competitive. Divide the corporate Dem vote just enough…

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    It will be destroyed just like the rest of the government. Putin’s agent has been given control of our country by MAGAts and their supporters.

  • @BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    No shit, Joe! Your insistence on holding into power when it was clear that’s not what the people wanted enabled this. Your legacy will forever be tarnished by your inability to accept reality before it was too late.

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        Oh, no doubt. But why I would care about his opinion is a mystery. Like, I’m not asking Hilary for her take on the orange. I can formulate my own ideas without these loser also-rans.

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          The more people who have an audience and in a higher power, the better the chances of taking things back under control. You don’t have to listen to AOC, but we need her to help rally troops.

          • @Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
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            AOC actually has the publics interest (at least seems like it) at heart and has a future in politics. Biden just wanted to preserve the status quo and him and those in his age group who refused to retire are the direct cause of current events

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    Maybe the people on social security should stop voting for rapists/terrorists/felons/morons…?

    Drumpf said he didn’t care about you. He SAID IT. Yet you still voted for him because you’re a stupid PoS. 🤷‍♀️

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      Yeah but men wearing skirts makes them feel uncomfortable so killing minorities is sadly more important than a functioning society.

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      I’ve been told since it’s not ok the books as a law it’s just words and we should feel and think he doesn’t care about anyone.