Any democratic candidate preaching “forgiveness and healing” needs to be primaried. We need representatives who are willing to absolutely curb-stomp the fuck out a party that is effectively an occupying enemy force.
These are not people to “reach out” to. They are enemies to overcome.
You take the current sitting dictator drag them out by their toes from his Ivory tower string them up in Town square and let everybody look at them.
That’s how it’s always been done historically and that’s how it’s still done to this day it’s very effective.
Republicans still don’t see him as a dictator, though. That’s part of the problem.
When the fascists roll up to abduct people they seem to always wear masks, black clothing, and show no ID so they cant be identified. Because they know what they are doing is something unethical, and they would not want it attached to their name. They all need to be doxed and held to account for their criminal conduct, whether acting in an official capacity or not. They had a choice to comply with illegal orders and they chose to comply. Criminals, the lot of them.
Ideally they’d just be shot on sight so the modern gestapo is too afraid to keep abducting people.
Yeah, and every dictator that got overthrown had loyal, grovelling followers. So what?
I think that you guys need to get over your fear of introducing another political party, so that the Democrats can be made to fear the consequences of being a bunch of animated fucking corpses that are too busy maintaining the status quo to listen to their voters or show any signs of actual life.
I said this years ago after J6: if liberals wanted to maintain liberal democracy, they had to literally hang Trump after J6 and the false electors scheme. Instead he faced 0 consequences, so he (and the fascists around him) decided they could just keep trying different coup strategies until they found the one that works. Liberals let them iteratively test coup strategies.
Real Democrats need to ditch the establishment Dems and form their own version of MAGA from within and get shit done.
I saw yesterday where they were going to sideline David Hogg because he was becoming a little too dangerous to some of the members of the ‘Do Nothing’ party.
What a waste.
If you watch the Bernie/AOC rally vids, that is what he’s trying to inspire. One vid has a nurse from the crowd talking about working 7 days a week, to live, and she frankly says the old people need to retire, calling out both Pelosi and Schumer. She’s right. Conservatives also attending.
Younger people need to compete with and oust the established Dems, like AOC did in her district, or we will never see a fresh approach.
If we still have elections in the upcoming years, it would be fantastic for people like AOC to run for public office all around the nation.
In fact if you are in a position to, I would encourage everyone reading this to take a moment to look up your state’s candidate filing procedures and see how you can try taking an official’s job that they’re not doing. Just because you may not have the millions in funding doesn’t mean you can’t or won’t have a shot at winning.
If your goal is to organize opposition to fascism, don’t waste effort attempting to coalesce it around the Democrats. They’ll only come around once they’re overtaken by events. Someone else has to do the heavy lifting and take the risk.
Yeah Hogg was dropping some good shit last week. That got him in trouble. Now they want him to shut up.
Just like when waltz was popular he got sidelined/muzzled and anything that polled well for the Kamala campaign got dropped.
Almost like there’s a pattern
A man rubs a lamp and a genie comes out and says, “I will grant you one wish, anything you ask for, whatever you can imagine, your wish is my command.”
The man shouts, “I want a dragon!”
The genie responds, “I’m sorry, but a dragon is just too much, it’s just not possible for that to exist. Can you think of something else?”
The man thinks for a minute and says, “Well, in that case, I guess I wish for the rich and powerful to face significant legal consequences within the existing system for the harm they do to regular people.”
The genie sighs and says, “What color did you want that dragon?”
Unfortunately the democrats are made up of assholes like Pelosi and Schumer who are just there to get rich.
I’m not so sure they even want that at all. Simply because of their shameful behavior, while the US president acts like a goddamn Nazi (because he obviously is one, of course).
But for all that, the Democrats have refused to allow even a little progressiveness in their ranks for years, against the wishes of their own voters.
But hey, I don’t know very much about all this because I’m from Germany.
All I can say is that in our country - and this applies to larger parts Europe - Sanders, for example, would be a moderate center-left politician. What he is calling for is not at all radical in many parts of the world, but rather quite normal. Basic decency, so to speak…
Yup. The Democratic party is the Republican party of 40 years ago. The Republicans are obviously now literal nazis, fascists, kkk, the worst of the worst. That’s all we have and they have no interest in changing that.
Many of us like Sanders because he is a vocal option that is at least left of the status quo. But there are also so many of us that want European left policies. We just can’t get it to happen in a winner takes all style of representation. And capitalism.
Yes, unfortunately, I think the US has been a plutocracy for way too long already.
I think it’s time for US citizens to admit that and change it for good. Of course, I’m fully aware that many Lemmy users have long realized this.
I really don’t want to offend anyone with this obvious statement, but it’s simply a fact that many people in the USA have been living like in a third world country for a very long time - even though the US is one of the richest countries in the world.
The reason for this is very obvious: shameless enrichment of the rich and powerful - hardly any difference to Russia imo - more humane means so far, yes, but the effect is basically the same.
This is not meant as an insult at all. I just can’t believe how obvious the corruption in the USA is: Even in the highest offices. People like the President himself or Clarence Thomas (so on and so on) obviously no longer feel the need to be ashamed of anything - they don’t even try to keep any of their criminal activities even remotely secret.
Our system is certainly not perfect and we also have major problems with corruption and also with the resurgence of fascist parties. But the level of open corruption in the USA is still mind blowing to me: The shameless insider deals of the president, the unscrupulousness of constitutional judges who so obviously rule against the constitution! I can’t even begin to name even half of it.
Unconditional immunity for presidents? Imprisonment of innocent people without due process? Prisons for profit? I think that’s wild and only possible in a failed state!
I mean, you really don’t have to be an expert in constitutional law to realize that any even halfway decent democratic constitution would of course rigorously rule all this out.
I myself can only observe this from afar and helplessly feel sorry for all the good and still rationally thinking US citizen.
Of course, I have no solutions. Only the obvious thought that the US institutions have long been corrupted.
I wish you all the best and try to contribute at least something from afar - but unfortunately I have little hope, because I honestly believe that the US system is broken beyond repair.
No offense taken. We know we’re “a third sold country in a Gucci belt”. It’s not that it started 40 years ago, but that’s when it really took off, this speedrun to transferring wealth and power to the already wealthy. They purposely cut funding to education to make an easily manipulated populace, and have been using fear propaganda relentlessly for longer.
We also learned last time Trump was elected that most of our country was held together by gentlemen’s agreements and the idea that our constitution never considered irrational people would be elected.
Our system is broken, and the ones with the power to do anything about it have no interest in doing so.
I honestly don’t know how we recover from this. Stopping Trump is a bandaid. Rooting out the cancer… 🤷🏼♂️
It drives me insane how people idolize these criminals. They will dismiss anything criticizing billionaires as “commie liberal bullshit” and go back to their charlie kirk. The US is and has been completely brainwashed. I can’t tell ypu the weird looks I get when I come right out and say “the billionaires are the problem. Stop using Twitter and amazon”. They act like that is total insanity.
The Overton Window really fucked us.
yes, and the dems lionizing “centrism” and “bipartisanship” played a huge role.
They would sell their own families out if they could paint it as “pragmatic”
They won’t because republicans even if they form a dictatorship are less a threat to their interests and goals than the alternative.
More like they can’t because everybody shits on them online so they don’t get enough votes to do anything.
No democrats don’t not fight against rising authoritarianism because people criticize them for supporting genocide and imperialism that’s a deluded take.
If people supported dems wholeheartedly, if people had gone out and voted dem, then the fascism wouldn’t be happening. That’s reality.
If people supported dems wholeheartedly
Your expectations are unreasonable. Not everyone will follow democrats as they play arms broker for a genocide, no matter how entitled you feel to their unconditional support.
To do this successfully, Democrats would have to abandon the corrupting influence of corporate PAC donations and actually work towards improving the material living conditions of the working class. Not just say some of the right things on the campaign trial, but actually fight for and pass real legislation.
I’m sorry, but the current elected officials simply aren’t going to do that. We have to replace them first to have any hope, and it’s going to take time to do so unfortunately.
They held up little signs, begged for bipartisanship, and voted for Republican only written bills. I mean what more do you want from them!
They do. Will they? Nope.
The DNC needs to go, it isn’t reformable
This is true of both parties, and our two party system.
Dictators deserve death.
It’s going to be fun watching all of these traitors stand trials for their crimes.
Very cute fantasy of yours. Will never happen.
