• @phantomwise@lemmy.ml
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    “You asked, we built it” --> “People keep shitting on us for our terrible decisions… Quick let’s do something people actually want to compensate ! Wait let’s also slap AI on it, I’m sure everyone will love that” (Mozilla being Mozilla I guess…)

    • @vivendi@programming.dev
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      152 minutes ago

      People love to hate on Mozilla without knowing shit. Some of it is literally 4Chan grade manipulation as well.

      Like the whole ToS debacle. People just aren’t interested in truth just rage 24/7

  • @sgibson5150@slrpnk.net
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    So they’re reintroducing a feature in 2025 that they added to Firefox in 2010 and subsequently removed in 2013. Such progress. Much wow.

  • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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    Noooo it has AI garbage, what the hell.

    I really need this feature, I have over 500 tabs open right now, I just hope it works well.

    • @dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
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      Yeah pretty sad. It would be a much more useful feature for me on mobile.

      On desktop, I usually just create a new window for different types of stuff.

      No easy way to organize my infinite tabs on mobile (as far as im aware).

      Chromium browsers on mobile do this, but it’s also a bit weirdly complicated/frustrating to work with at times, I hope of Firefox get to it, they can make it super simple.

  • Captain Beyond
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    smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.

    Yeah sure ok. Did the community ask for this too?

    • @phantomwise@lemmy.ml
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      For one second I thought Mozilla might have made something that wasn’t anti-feature… But OF COURSE it’s going to need to have AI 😑

    • Echo Dot
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      I don’t care about AI when it’s doing minor things like this it’s when they’re shoving it down our throats and we don’t want it.

    • @douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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      I mean, why not?

      They integrated accessibility focused, local, AI pretty well.

      Loads of folks bitched about it because they were triggered by “AI”, but it’s essentially invisible, as it should be.

      I hate naming things, that’s actually something AI is good at, hell yeah, let it name my shit for me please.

      Then again, these communities are always full of Debby downers who hate on everything.

      • @ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
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        [Dr. Who meme format]

        Is AI bad?

        It Depends. Large corporate AI hosted at a data centre that consumes a nuclear reactor’s worth of power and a lake’s worth of water for cooling for the purpose of generating slop stolen from Artists and Writers? Yes.

        Locally run embedded AI designed for a specific task to automate small processes or enhance the UI experience with little cost to local computing resources because it’s been properly optimised? No.

        • @vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
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          a datacenter is more efficient than lots of smaller individual computers doing calculations independently. They actually make their stuff as efficient as possible, otherwise it hurts margins. So, if you’re against datacenter AI because of power, then just stop using ai. If everyone ran locally, the efficiency would be significantly worse overall.

          I actually hate what llms have become, but efficiency is still not a good way to compare a datacenter to a home computer.

          • @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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            A consumer would use a lower token AI compared to large datacenters. I am sure it does less environmental damage, because the home user doesnt need tap water for cooling.

      • @Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        123 hours ago

        Yeah for now I remain cautiously optimistic. I have not used their ai stuff once but it was also never shoved down my throat and my browsing experience has not been affected at all, and them finally listening to the community and implementing tabs grouping is just great. If they keep it that way I think we’ll be fine

  • Phoenixz
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    Awesome!

    Can you now please make it so that of I have over 100 tabs open that Firefox makes my computer die, even if all those tabs are all pre-killed by a tab closer?

  • @x4740N@lemm.ee
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    Still waiting for mobile, tab groups missing from Firefox mobile is the only reason I’m still using chrome

  • ☂️-
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    ok, mozilla is at least doing stuff we want along with ai garbage now.

    • @pory@lemmy.world
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      115 hours ago

      Thankfully, the useful changes trickle downstream to Waterfox, LibreWolf, Floorp, etc.

        • @8uurg@lemmy.world
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          At least the AI runs locally, as opposed to sending everything to someone else’s computer for processing. Local translation in Firefox actually works quite well.

    • Except right now you lose all of your open tabs if you close the browser with the “X” on pc or if you shut the computer down.

      To make it save your open tabs right now, you have to click the … and then select “exit”.

      • @ThePinkUnicorn@lemdro.id
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        113 hours ago

        I think that’s an issue with your install, when I shut down my computer or press the x it restores tabs fine next time I open it.

        • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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          If it’s with the install, it’s from a bad/corrupted update. FF has been on there for ages. Are you on windows 10? I’ve seen it’s a known issue because it’s findable if you Google it. Be a strange bit of a corrupt install, being that it’s the only issue and that it works as expected if you select “exit” instead of hitting the “X”. Regardless, if you’re also on 64bit win10 system and it works normally for you, I’ll do a clean install.

        • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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          I’ve clicked history to get some pages back, but haven’t noticed a restore previous session option. Great if it’s there, but still a large bug that’s been present for quite a while.

  • davel [he/him]
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    451 day ago

    I had to enable them: about:config -> browser.tabs.groups.enabled -> true

      • Echo Dot
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        But they’re off by default so I’m not sure what you’re talking about

        • @SaltSong@startrek.website
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          Not on my browser they aren’t. They just started offering to make groups one day, and while I want to tear out someone’s tongue for it, it would require far too much effort, and might just be a bit of an overreaction.

  • IndescribablySad@threads.net
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    Shit, I remember seeing requests for tab groups for like 20 years under an assortment of names and descriptions. Neat to see. Useless for me, but neat to see.

    • dohpaz42
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      132 days ago

      This is a nice feature when you have a group of multiple sites you need quick access to on the regular. For me, I manage around 12 websites in three environments ; dev, test, and prod. Being able to group the websites by environment keeps things organized and somewhat readily available at two clicks (maybe three if you count collapsing a group before opening another group).

    • @PostaL@lemmy.world
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      Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.

      I bet you one cheap bottle of mineral water they’ll implement this like tomorrow

  • @thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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    Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.

    Off course, they found a way to integrate more Ai features.

    • @Lodra@programming.dev
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      Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the inclusion of some small AI feature is what justified the rest of this work being done. As in, someone got approval for tab groups only because they were smart enough to describe it as “AI powered tab groups“. Just speculation