• @CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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      014 days ago

      Broad strokes & bad wording. I’m mainly pointing that bad wording comment at the title, and the author. It’s obviously not a problem of figuring out how to breed, it’s just that men are looking at divorce rates, divorce courts, alimony, child support, etc & they’re saying, “Yeah…fuck all that, I want nothing to do with that.” Enough of the smart, smarter ones aren’t producing children. Technically you could say “that’s a big problem for the country”.

      Hence…they need help/incentive to decide to pump out babies. A one-time $5K baby bonus is on the table, which to his credit as the author points out, is nothing. A one-time $5K payment isn’t going to flip the switch for men.

      Now Hungary is offering tax exemption for life, for women that have 4 or more kids. Again, there seems to be no mention of the men, I guess they can go fuck themselves…but all I’m saying is now there’s an incentive!! At least for the women. Fuck taxes.

      • @PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, see pregnancy can kill women. It fucks their whole bodies up, more children makes them more fucked up. Guys just cum and it’s over.

        Fuck taxes on the poor.

      • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        Fuck taxes.

        Taxes are what enable countries to make parenthood safe and affordable for everyone, and provide healthcare and education for all the children. “Fuck taxes” is shortsighted.

      • @SpaceShort@feddit.uk
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        Two questions:

        1. “it’s just that men are looking at…” Do you have any evidence that men in general are doing that? Or specifically “smarter” ones?

        2. Why do you need a specific reason to not be in a relationship, as opposed to a reason to be in one?

        • @CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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          013 days ago

          Also going to give a bonus, that “smarter” comment was just a quick little aside thrown into the larger & not entirely connected argument against marriage. I was referring to not having children, a second argument that could have been a separate paragraph, but I didn’t want to make the comment even longer. That’s kind of a format error on my part, and I apologize.

          And yes, there is also proof of that. Web search ‘higher education lower birth rate’, verbatim, and you’ll see supporting evidence. All around the world, more education, overall less babies.

          Now it’s important to not be overly reductive and actually think, “Me smart, me have no babies. You have babies, you dumb .” Not true. But all the various factors surrounding being in a first world country, having access to resources, better work opportunities, and yes having a higher education & access to more information…very much tends to lead…to having fewer and/or no children. Again, it’s playing out around us, we’re below replacement rate like many other developed nations around the world.

          But there’s just no need to produce children like there is in developing or third world countries. In some countries, they’re popping out all the babies they can because they don’t even know how many will survive into adulthood. In countries with no law or support, children are the poor man’s pension. It’s a proven method that works, there’s more at stake, that’s all they know, that’s what they do. And I get that.

          I find myself in very different circumstances, with very different rules of engagement & on its face extremely limited payoff for having children. Selfish analysis aside, I personally believe having children (especially now) is a little selfish & I don’t want to bring children into this world to be mere financial batteries for the state. Additionally, when polled, 15% of parents admit to regretting having kids. And if you ask me it’s at least 15%, it’s the 15% that have the balls to admit it. I have a friend like that, told me he regretted becoming a parent. And idk it’s hard to say “what might have been” & whatnot, but given my personality & my beliefs I’m inclined to think that I would also be in that 15%. After I aged up & learned more than I knew at 18-26 years old. Young, dumb, full of cum & whatnot.

  • @msprout@lemmy.world
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    The one thing about a low replacement rate that brings me comfort is knowing that the very material realities of our world agonize white supremacists every second of every day.

  • Positive eugenics (i.e. encouraging reproduction among certain groups) is still eugenics. It isn’t just about preventing “undesirable” groups from reproducing.