• who
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    81 month ago

    In order to retain our rights to private communications, we have to win every time.

    In order to take them away, they only have to win once.

    They will keep trying.

    Stay vigilant.

      • @Lemming6969@lemmy.world
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        11 month ago

        There are certain kinds of rules and discoveries that society can make that they must defend by making rules that eliminate anyone that dares bring the adverse ruling up again. You want slavery and propose it back into law? Society kills you for that.

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      We need to reverse this. We need to make sure we only need to win once, to permenantly secure this. This is why constitutions exist. Instead of passively waiting, we need to go on the attack, and strike the final blow, before they do. We need these rights secured by constitutions, so they can’t be so easily taken away from us. I read that for instance Germany has article 10 of their Grundgesetz, which, (in this translation), states:

      (1) The privacy of correspondence, posts and telecommunications shall be inviolable.

      But sadly it’s being followed by:

      (2) Restrictions may be ordered only pursuant to a law. If the restriction serves to protect the free democratic basic order or the existence or security of the Federation or of a Land, the law may provide that the person affected shall not be informed of the restriction and that recourse to the courts shall be replaced by a review of the case by agencies and auxiliary agencies appointed by the legislature.

      I imagine more countries might have these half-ass measures. Laws that read '(1) X is a fundemental right and nobody can ever take it away from you. (2) except ofcourse goverment, who can do as they please’. I suppose ultimately it requires legislators to give up power, and obviously that only happens under external pressure. Currently people don’t seem to care enough to put pressure on these types of issues. I mean, if people cared, they’d move to private services, and if they did then this would be less of an issue. It’s an issue precisely because people don’t seem to care nor understand the relevance of privacy.

      So we need people to care temporarily, and then use that momentum to get our constitutions changed. And for that we probably need a scandal, one that’s completely outrageous, while still being quite easy to understand. I don’t know if or how this would come to pass, but I wouldn’t say it’s completely unthinkable. Perhaps we also need some books or films, like a modern 1984, some AI-dystopia. that atleast gets cultural elites, but preferably larger parts of society, to worry about their freedom. In a sense doing the groundwork, and then when minds are ready, we need to strike.

      Stay vigilant indeed.

  • @Entertain529@lemmy.ml
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    41 month ago

    The real challenge is getting loved ones to care enough to use a FREE encrypted communication app.

    Its like they see privacy as an anti-feature and would rather leave the door wide open for anyone to come rummage through their messages.

  • @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    From a cybersecurity perspective, it is nearly impossible to create a backdoor to a communications product that is only accessible for certain purposes or under certain conditions.

    Oh? It is possible? Pray tell, how?

    • @themurphy@lemmy.ml
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      11 month ago

      Screen recording or snapshots like Windows Recall. Or keyboard telemitry.

      But that’s it I think.

      • @Charlxmagne@lemmy.world
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        11 month ago

        It’s well known that iphone, google samsung and microsoft android keyboards are the most used keyloggers in the world.

  • Phoenixz
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    11 month ago

    They only need to succeed once. Just keeeeep trying and trying and trying, keep renaming the same turd to some new shiny acronym, and keep trying until you statistically have to succeed

  • @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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    01 month ago

    If the law ever says that we are not allowed to have encryption, I am absolutely going to be one of the first ones going to jail because I’m not going to put up with that.

    The way I see it is you can throw me in jail where you then have to feed me, give me proper climate control, give me a place to sleep, etc. all on your dime.

    • @mrbubblesort@lemmy.world
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      01 month ago

      I get it, it’s internet hyperbole. But dude, if that happens please fight back. Protests, voting, or god forbid gunfire if need be. But don’t just give up and die, that’s what they want.

      • @obvs@lemmy.world
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        11 month ago

        For the entire time I have lived on this planet, I’ve been pretty confident that my daily activities would generally be considered legal, and that the Federal Government had literally zero reason to be interested in me or anything I did.

        Now, though, I am aware that the government can disappear me and rendition me to a death camp, without trial and even without habeas corpus.

        As far as I can tell, if I’m being arrested I no longer have anything to lose. I am aware of that, and should it come to that, I understand why people are saying to act accordingly.

        That is as far as I am going to say in this conversation.

  • @network_switch@lemmy.ml
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    01 month ago

    I at least have a core group of friends that use Signal and I keep Element installed on my phone and computers hoping someday more people move to that over the next decade