Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

  • Chainweasel
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    Thank God we saved Palestine from Biden, right protest voters?
    Right?

    • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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      Oh boy you rustled some jimmies. Idk that I’ve seen a single comment where every response was down voted for being shitty takes.

      I’m sure all of those third party and non voters are jerking off all over themselves for saving Palestine and ending the genocide through Donald Trump.

      Hey, at least they’ve got their pedestals to look down on us from.

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        Oh boy you rustled some jimmies.

        That might be an understatement lol.
        I’m still getting comments, threats, and suggestions to commit suicide on this post, and other comments and posts I’ve made going back at least a year.

        They’re so mad they’re been browsing my comment history to find more things to get pissed off about lol.
        I love pissing off fascists and all the attention let’s me know I’m on the right track.

        • @archonet@lemy.lol
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          I think for everyone who can not, for one reason or another, go out in the streets and shout “what the fuck are we doing?”, the next best, most morally correct thing to do is to piss fascists off and waste their time.

        • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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          Same. I’ve had cancer wished on me, suicide, and a few other things. Like you said, it’s solidly let me know the kind of people that I’m criticizing.

          Someone lost a friend in Lebanon, and that’s sad. I’m sure if they were still here, they’d be stoked that their friend effectively supported Donald Trump to help out though.

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        I doubt that anyone ever claimed Trump would end the genocide on Palestinians from outside a troll farm in St. Petersburg.

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            I meant people who aren’t right-wing idiots cheering on the fascist takeover. Thought that was clear from context, my bad.

        • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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          Some of them I’m sure thought it, but definitely a minority. It’s the fact that Gaza was used as a means to target Harris, and against all evidence suggesting it would be the same or worse, didn’t do the same to condemn Trump.

            • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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              You’re right, it would have, but the reality was Trump or Harris. It was still an extremely easy decision, but it would have been better if the less shitty candidate was even less shitty.

              • @WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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                If Democrats can’t handle the lowest bar in thr world, that of being against genocide, then the party doesn’t deserve to exist full stop. We need a new party, the Dems won’t save us from the next Trump either.

                • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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                  Cool, but that doesn’t happen in the general election. The seems aren’t good, but had 3rd party and non voters voted for Harris, then yes, the Democratic party would have saved us from Trump. Realistically, it’s the people saving us from Trump via the Democratic party, but at the end of the day, we got Trump because those same individuals decided a Trump presidency was the better outcome. Full stop.

      • @hark@lemmy.world
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        The original comment is a shitty take. Biden was sending billions in weapons to israel to carry out its mission of genocide. He continued doing this even though people were begging him to stop during an election when he needed their votes. Harris continued his rhetoric. You and Chainweasel think that somehow Biden/Harris would have changed course after they didn’t need the votes. Now you’re talking about people jerking all over themselves while you and Chainweasel admonish voters for not picking the correct genocide-enabler-in-chief. Hope you have good balance on that pedestal of yours because it’s really high up.

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              the fact I made this months ago and people like you are still proving it relevant is hilarious, though I suppose the second panel should be “third party/not at all/for trump” in this context

              • @hark@lemmy.world
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                “but one of them will explicitly make it worse”

                Biden was making it worse for over a fucking year. Your comic is not clever or informative or even truthful, sorry. I voted for Harris, but I cannot control how others vote. If democrats want votes, they should actually try to get them. Democrats running on “other guy will make it worstester!!!” while still making things worse themselves is a losing strategy and yet here you are defending it. That’s truly a stick-in-spokes maneuver.

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                  the contentious point has never been that democrats should have run a better campaign. on that we all agree. the relevant issue has always been that not voting democrat would result in a worse outcome.

                  surprise surprise. it did.

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              In their defense, it’s very expected that some people can be so stupid as to think Trump was not going to be worse for Gaza. And Ukraine. And Europe. And US. But I guess you are.

              That’s why they can you “useful idiot”

              Edit: to be clear, I don’t mean “you” in particular, but those like you in general.

              • @hark@lemmy.world
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                it’s very expected that some people can be so stupid

                But I guess you are.

                It’s obvious that you’re calling me stupid and an idiot. You assign behaviors that you think apply to me and then say that those behaviors make one a useful idiot. I know you’re just trying to skirt rule 5, but this has got to be one of the most pathetic attempts I’ve seen.

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                  Why am I skirting any rule? Those like you include you. I’ve even said explicitly on your quote.

                  You were fooled and you’re trying to defend it as some form of moral superiority. You don’t care about Gaza, you care more about not admitting you were wrong.

                  Go ahead and report me, just be careful to not fall from your high horse.

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          Ok, so assume all things equal, everything happens the same in Gaza… Trump is still significantly worse in every other facet. So yea, all third party voters and non voters are fucking moronic Trump supporters. A bunch of ignorant fuckwits that think that they made a difference by standing up against the establishment. Congrats, we got Trump.

          There’s only so many ways to say that there were two outcomes last November, and everyone knew that. If y’all can’t wrap your head around that reality 6 months later, then that says everything about your ability to reason.

          • @Iceman@lemmy.world
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            Why I don’t get is why the democrats ran a chicken race with democracy for a widely despised policy when they knew the stakes. We can call the electorate morons all day and even have point, but they are supposed to be smart.

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              that’s absolutely true too! there are multiple parties who share the responsibility… as always, the world is complex and rarely are things black and white

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            The main argument was never “Trump is no worse than Harris”. To argue against this is fighting windmills.

            • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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              The argument has always been, of the two candidates, one of which will win, which is less bad? People that voted third party or didn’t vote decided that Trump is less bad.

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                No it wasn’t. That’s disregarding a heap of systemic criticism and historical and moral considerations.

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                  It was, because that’s reality. It does disregard a lot of criticism, because again, at the end of the day, there were two candidates, and one was going to win. Harris wasn’t, imo, a good candidate, but Trump was a far worse.

                  In the US, it’s been that way for the better part of the past century, because FPtP always devolves to a two party system. This past election was no different.

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            The most basic job responsibility of a politician is to get elected. Democrats’ only platform is “at least we’re not as bad as the other guys” but the other guys only get worse and worse while democrats follow along, making sure to be just different enough to make people think they have a choice, but not different enough to change the course of our country and its servitude to the ultra-rich.

            You’re arguing with people on here who most likely voted for Harris. I know I did. However, who I vote for doesn’t matter when democrats are so bad at looking appealing and fighting for a winning chance that my vote is drowned out by others not paying attention or who are gerrymandered away (or otherwise suppressed).

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              I’m specifically arguing with/against non voters, 3rd party voters, and Trump voters. I also pinched my nose and voted for Harris in November. I’m not going to argue for the democratic party, because it’s the second worst major party in the US, and they suck. Unfortunately, we are a FPtP nation, so in the general we get two options and get to pick who’s less bad. Lot’s of people that voted for Harris did so with that in mind.

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              Doesn’t matter what the Democrats platform was.

              If they were concerned about Gaza and didn’t vote Harris, then they didn’t care about Gaza. Because of them Trump got elected like everyone told them, and made the situation in Gaza worse.

              • @hark@lemmy.world
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                If democrats were concerned about stopping trump and ignored voters, then they didn’t care about stopping trump. Because of them trump got elected like everyone told them, and made the situation in Gaza worse.

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          1 million upvotes for you. “Hope you’re happy Trump got elected. Palestine is doing great now” etc. is such a tired cliche at this point. I’m astonished that it gets upvoted every. single. time. Harris literally said she wouldn’t do anything different from Biden. She would have allowed/financed the genocide all the same, but she’d be calling the “tragic loss of life” a “very complex issue.” I have no idea where this fantasy comes from that she would suddenly be the hero who stands up to Israel.

          • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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            She would have been better for the world as a whole than Trump. If you truely think that things would have played out exactly the same in Gaza with Harris as POTUS, then it still comes down to two candidates last November, and every person knew that one of them would win. So a vote for Trump, a non vote, or a third party vote directly benefited Trump.

            “Oh but I voted against genocide”, fuck no you didn’t. You voted in a manner that directly put Trump in charge, which was the worst possible outcome.

            • @triptrapper@lemmy.world
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              To be clear, I voted for Harris, and I implored everyone I know to vote for Harris, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I will always vote for the farthest-left candidate in the general, full-stop. I’m not arguing that both sides are the same, or that Harris wouldn’t have been a better choice for 100 reasons outside of the genocide issue. I’m arguing that Harris gave no indication that she would defend Palestine or even recognize the genocide at all. She might well have done those things, but she didn’t campaign on that, so I don’t know why anyone is defending her on the issue. Establishment Dems can’t seem to get it through their heads that progressive policies are popular, so we keep getting general elections between an absolute monster and a neolib Dem saying, “Vote for me or you’ll get the monster!” That might be the reality, but it’s not a platform.

              I live in a blue state, and I had people around me arguing that whether they voted third-party or didn’t vote at all, they would be able to sleep at night knowing that A. they didn’t vote for genocide and B. the state would go blue anyway. I don’t agree with that position at all. I want third parties to be represented in the US, but that starts at the local level and in the primaries. By the general election it’s too late and we realistically have two options. I also believe that shutting down any criticism of the Dem candidate (e.g. a now-banned user told me to kill myself) is a good way to alienate people and discourage them from engaging with the process at all. The right has banned nuance from their discourse, and I refuse to allow the same thing to happen around me.

            • @hark@lemmy.world
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              It could be argued that trump is actually better for the world (but not for the US) since he’s ruining the US’s soft power by tearing up alliances and expressing blatant corruption, making the US look incompetent and completely untrustworthy. Now other countries are finding alternatives, making the US not as central as it used to be. He is perhaps the most effective tool in helping the US empire fall.

              You could also argue that this is accelerationism, but to be fair, democrats take advantage of accelerationism all the time (e.g. “republicans have repealed reproductive rights, donate even more money to us so we can fight it” while letting things get worse and worse, barely putting up a fight to make long-lasting changes and indeed letting things get this bad so they can position themselves as the only “solution”).

              • @BassTurd@lemmy.world
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                All, unfortunately, true.

                Edit: Unfortunate for us in the US, not necessarily unfortunate for the rest of the world in some aspects. I still think as a whole his influence and other actions probably still make him worse for the world, but there is a valid argument about nations growing less dependent on the US.

                Hopefully in 3.5 years (or please God, less), the US will be knocked down a peg on the world stage, other nations have a more diverse and stable trade relationships, and maybe Trump’s actions will help spark other countries into action against hard right politics to prevent the same thing from happening to them. Ideally, this could be a catalyst for positive change, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • @ProvableGecko@lemmy.world
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      As a lib I am deeply ashamed that we have missed a historic opportunity of electing a black woman to unquestioningly, unequivocally and fully support the destruction of Palestine all the while lying about “working round the clock to stop the Israel-Hamas war”.

      • @Tja@programming.dev
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        Well, you got a orange man who wants to accelerate the destruction, ethnically cleanse the population and build a hotel on the ashes. At least he’s too dumb to lie about it. Yay?

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          I don’t see an acceleration. Israel is trying to kill the most number of palestinians while the united snake send billions to israel

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              For one stop, believing the USA without thinking before

              The USA been voted no to UN resolutions to recognize a Palestinian independent state since 1974.

              I prefer an honest scum who say we oppose a two state solution or any other type of solution than a hypocrite scum who claim to want one

    • @ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      The zionists won. It doesn’t need reminding.

      A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out. I don’t get this sentiment to keep stomping.

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        There are those of us who will never see the protest (non-)voters as allies again due to their willingness to ignore the basic math of the election and enable fascists to win to “prove a point”. They are a step away from collaborators and hold part of the responsibility for every person who has been kidnapped by ICE, the end of a possibility of a free Palestine, every murdered protestor, every trans youth who commits suicide because they are denied care, every child that dies from measles.

        Performative bullshit driven by the desire to feel moral superiority while helping get a fascist elected and undoing a century of civil and societal progress doesn’t make one an ally. It makes them useful idiots to the far-right and betrayers of people in vulnerable populations, everyone whose life is ruined by global warming.

        I might forgive this who take responsibility and try to lend a hand in the multi-generation effort to try repairing the damage that has been in under 200 days (protest voters have fucked over GenX through Alpha, at the very least). But, as long as I live, I’ll not forget, nor will I allow them or anyone else to do so, lest someone make the mistake of thinking that they would stand up for anyone in any effective manner capable of positive change.

        • @rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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          You are paying the price of voting for the same two parties for centuries. As for gaza regardless who is in power in the usa it makes zero difference

      • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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        A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out.

        No, it succeeded in its goal - making sure the fascist won.

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      Look, I was the first person in threads to call these people out back in February. And March… But it’s June. This shit accomplishes nothing now beyond creating more unnecessary division.

      I don’t even disagree, it’s just not productive to constantly harp on this when we’ve all heard it a million times

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        I don’t even disagree, it’s just not productive to constantly harp on this when we’ve all heard it a million times

        Man, there are people who still believe that helping fascism win was a good idea. Look in this very comment thread, where people are openly extolling the virtues of having Trump win from a ‘leftist’ standpoint, and teaching those damn dirty SHITLIBS a lesson.

        As long as those opinions remain widespread on here, it remains necessary to highlight just how morally repugnant they are.

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        Same thing as you, me and everyone else here, I’d wager. Nothing. Welcome to social media.

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      how the fck this has so many votes ? that scum did nothing but lie about it for a year. that trash had failed upward his entire political carrier by bankrolling with aipac blood money.

      he is the biggest reason harris lost and was probably told to do so by israel.

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        racism, toxic masculinity, sexism won out over actual governance policies. DNC underestimated the “socially conservatives” of blacks, and hispanic people. add in a little election interference of the machines and propaganda.

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          dnc underestimated nothing, they are a party run by two faced drifters like pelosi and schumer. these parasites are part of the same oligarchy.

          i live in very liberal part of nyc and not a single person whether black, hispanic, asian or white wants to vote for dnc since Hillary because their policies have been just farce and they do a half ass job even on getting that implemented. biden funded and cheered a live streamed genocide, did fuck to protect women rights or stop rabid inflation. he cried about humanity in ukraine while burning children alive in hospitals and made US a even a bigger joke on warcrimes. blocked a proper dnc primary and then ended his presidency by pardoning his whoring drug addict son who drifted millions by lobbying for superpacs leveraging his scum father’s position.

          the only reason harris got any vote was because her opponents was way worse trash then her. everyone knew she is just another spineless pimp for superpacs like last two dnc candidates.

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      Get over yourself mate. We haven’t memory holed genocide Joe.

      To the downvoters. Biden supplied the weapons, the political cover and the witchunt against domestic dissent. These policies were all continued by Trump.

      Matthew Miller and Blinken shed lots of crocodile tears but continued to support Netanyahu for 18 months. There was no serious effort at stopping the genocide under the Democrats

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        Great, now you got the genocide still going AND a fascist takeover of your country, with even less possibility to change anything and plenty of distractions to the Palestinians cause because your country is falling apart around you.

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          Genocide Joe walked so Fascist Donald could run.

          Fascism didn’t start in January. It’s been a steady, forty-year march aided and abetted by every president since Carter.

          • @Lupus108@sh.itjust.works
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            I generally agree with your premise up until the point where you argue for accelerating the rise of fascism.

            NOTHING has been gained by this, NOTHING changed for the better, it only got harder to bring about change. The people who could’ve mobilized and fought for those causes are now busy trying to stop the gestapo from deporting their neighbors.

            • FlashMobOfOne
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              argue for accelerating the rise of fascism.

              Either you’re putting up a straw man or you didn’t read what I wrote correctly.

              • @grue@lemmy.world
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                He correctly understood the context in which you wrote it, which was defending fascist-accelerationist non-voters and third-party voters.

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                  Okay, Jan.

                  I won’t even bother entertaining you or them, but just for funsies, go look up who gave Tom Homan his first federal appointment.

                  You’re welcome to your incorrect interpretation, and I hope you have a pleasant evening.

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      Biden is past episode. CUVFEC is the main problem.

    • @3abas@lemm.ee
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      Israel is done. It’ll take a few years more, but Trump abandoned Israel and the world is turning its back. Palestine will be free, and only then you also will be free.

      Until then, you’ll keep bouncing back between openly fascist and polite fascist like the good little wage slave that you are.

      This was Biden’s genocide, you can never take that away from him.

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    Nothing new here, the US has always supported the genocidal state of Israel. The US is complicit in the massacre, genocide and war crimes committed by Israel.

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    I mean as disgusting as this is he is really just saying the quiet part loud. There was never any plan to give the Palestinians a state. Oslo was a con to legitimise land confiscation and to neutralise the Palestinian resistance of the time (the PLO).

    The US did literally nothing while the Zionists flooded the West Bank with settlements over the last 30 years but kept up the “2 state solution” as a rhetorical shield.

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      People just like to pretend the quite part “aka Biden - Obama policies” was never been there.

      If at any given point, the US said “sanction for two state solution” it will take a few months before they come to a solution.

  • @hark@lemmy.world
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    The US was never pursuing such a thing, it was always to string Palestine along while israel goes in butchering the people and land to take for themselves completely.

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    You know it’s democracy when the policies of 340 million people can flip-flop based on the whims of a handful of moronic hateful shitbirds.

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      It’s not the handful, unfortunately.

      The handful has no real power.

      The problem is that 49% on each side flip-flop based on whoever’s in power, because their values and opinions are a matter of convenience, and perfectly easy to change with their preferred nightly news broadcast.

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        You’re correct in the general sense. But it’s not even 49%. It’s basically 2-10% of the American electorate. They flip-flop based on their own myopic, selfish impulses, and whatever bullshit they’ve been fed by the media.

        In 2016 they swung it for Trump because unlike his opponent he’s a white guy, they didn’t like Clinton, and because Trump’s promises of cheaper gas for their big trucks would save them a bit of money each month.

        In 2020 they swung for Biden because he’s also a white guy, they had discovered Trump just caused chaos without really delivering any personal benefits to them, and Biden looked like the more stable option for their pocket book.

        In 2024 they swung for Trump again because unlike his opponent he’s a white guy, and they apparently have fucking goldfish memories.

        Meanwhile, millions of other people in America and elsewhere in the world are being put through hell to a lesser or greater degree because of these people.

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        Yes and Eastern civilizations would do it too if they had the power. This is a human problem, not just a western problem.

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          Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what’s on the news today, so what I’m talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you’re talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if…

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            How is “theft of indigenous” lands a western thing? I cant think of a single region that didnt seek to acquire more territory.

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            So your argument is that it isn’t a human thing and easterners are superior to westerners? Would that be a race thing?

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              Not superior, but different. And yes, tribes are different, of course they are. Completely sober, a group of Germans/Finns and a group of Nigerians/Venezuelans/Algerians are completely different and we both know how. Western Europeans without ideology and morality turn into murderers. History proves it. They have fewer issues in dehumanising others, they sleep well at night in a house they robbed from people they killed (from the Native Americans to the Palestinians). No bs, can you say the same for other people in earnest?

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                Can you expand your “Maybe” answer to my assertion that this is a human problem not just a western problem?

                If it isn’t a human problem, what is it?

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                  Relax Jesus Christ, I made a parallel, you took it as absolute truth and challenged that it should apply to all humanity. That wasn’t my point, it’s yours, so I’m not trying to make it for you. Thanks

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      The people saying a vote for Harris was a vote for genocide definitely believed it

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    it was over the moment trump moved the embassy to jeruselum. oh and they never even planned to give palestine thier rightful state.

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    So much to unpack here.

    First of all, when asked, he said “I don’t think so.” He should have a definitive answer to that question, not some weasely equivocation.

    The fact that we aren’t supporting a PLACE for them to live as an independent nation, signals that America has embraced the genocide option.

    This is entirely about developing a Jewish Dubai, so they don’t have to spend their money with Muslims. HitlerPig’s Spiritual Advisor has already come out to say that Christians won’t be able to enter heaven unless they make a pilgrimage to Israel, the way Muslims make their pilgrimage to Mecca. Of course, for the MAGA Nazis, it’s not about spiritual fulfillment, it’s about making Christians spend their money in their hotels and restaurants.

    • @altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Israel has a very successful gamble in showing they are the white man’s key to the Middle East. For as long as no one wills to find another ally in the region, Israel oversells itself as a one. And as any other bad example of putting all eggs in one basket, Israel felt the dependency other states have in it, and now tests it, tests it, tests it with no negative response.

      Palestine and Gaza are just them dipping their toes to know, if they can get scots-free from shooting weak HAMAS and civs and get into a real war Netanyahu’s cabinet already planning. It’s 2025 and in the coming years we’d see even more violence from that beloved partner if no one pulls the stop lever.

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          In a sense, yes, but I feel like calling it a war gives some additional credit to Israel while what they do is an one-directional extermination campaign.

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        I can buy that. I fully believe that from their beginning, Israel has known that someday they will have to clear out the Palestinians, and Oct 7 provided the excuse for them to finally say “Today’s the day.”

        I also fully believe that they’ve had that same mindset toward the rest of the Middle East. They know that eventually they will have to settle their differences with their Muslim neighbors, and it won’t be with good-faith negotiations. And the Muslim countries have the exact same mindset. It is only a matter of time before they go at each other full force, and this Gaza Genocide does look like a dress rehearsal.