• @TheDannysaur@lemmy.world
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    I think these hard line stances do more harm than good.

    My wife and I are active in not supporting any new things, but to talk about how you think it’s morally wrong to even talk about the franchise is going to alienate a ton of people.

    I feel fine talking about it, and the memories I had with it. Because everyone I surround myself with is completely aligned that Harry Potter was meaningful when we were kids and also JK Rowling is a complete fucking asshat.

    This sort of purity testing has got to stop. If mentioning the name of Harry Potter marks someone as a transphobe who is equally as bad as politicians actively stripping them of their rights… The movement will never build a coalition.

    Saying that financially supporting JK Rowling is actively harming the trans community is a reasonable argument. Saying that talking about Harry Potter, even if you note that JK Rowling sucks, makes you an outright transphobe is not reasonable to me.

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      it does seem extremist as a perspective, but that extremist might think talking about the franchise is akin to marketing or a more passive or subtle way of the franchise receiving funding.

      Probably a better argument is that JK Rowling is not as influential as some anti-trans activists, and our behavior and norms should ideally be rational and reflect those priorities.

      I agree with you that coalition building is important, and in this particular case probably more important to trans rights than strict adherence to rules like never speaking of Harry Potter.

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          The president of the United States is a pretty open anti trans activist and has made deliberate efforts to use being anti trans as a way to whip up his base

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            I don’t think he’s as influential though. He has a wide-ranging influence over his base, but they already are full of hatred. She’s able to say the quiet parts quietly a lot better, and I think is more likely to radicalise new people to her cause.

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              I personally haven’t heard anyone go from being neutral to anti trans from jk Rowling bringing up a new perspective but instead have heard people from both the right and the left criticize her. Trump on the other hand radicalized the average bush era Republican into the MAGA cult we see today that is unafraid to openly show hate

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                I guess if you’re not up to date with the politics of the UK that it would seem like he had a much larger influence than her. We are talking about trans politics only here, don’t forget.

                To put it in a different perspective, look at how many people that don’t agree with Trump’s politics that interact with his businesses, compared to the same for JK.

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          Yeah I’ve got to firmly agree on that one. Her fame, and the fact that she created such a beloved franchise, gives her a lot of influence. Most people haven’t heard of the likes of say, Posie Parker, especially outside of the UK.

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      Too bad, trans people are more important than your pottertreats. If trans people say something is hurting them just stop doing it. Don’t get into the nitty gritty of “how much harm does it do really?” make as wide a distance as you can to it.

      As for this specific instance its not even hard to see how it is harming trans people: talking about hp keeps it in the spotlight which generats more sales.

      Why wouldn’t you purge the franchise that funds trans genocide from your life??

      • @Soulg@ani.social
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        Amazing how you people can’t even read a full post before having your aneurysm about trans allys not being pure enough for you

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            Because there’s nothing wrong with enjoying the franchise as long as you aren’t supporting it.

            Books are available secondhand. Games and movies can be pirated. It doesn’t cost anything to talk about a shared interest with friends.

            Just don’t give them money. Don’t go to their theme parks. Don’t buy the merchandise.

            You can like a thing and still make a conscious effort not to support the creator. You just have to be clear about the why if anyone asks you about it.

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              Books are available secondhand. Games and movies can be pirated. It doesn’t cost anything to talk about a shared interest with friends.

              Except it keeps this franchise alive, which in turn causes other people to buy the books, the games. If you want the franchise to die off, so no one buys their shit anymore you have to stop participating in it.

              Why is “stop platforming fascists” such a controversial take?

      • @TheDannysaur@lemmy.world
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        I want to be respectful here, but this has a lot of issues embedded in it.

        This kind of rhetoric rises from what I’ve called the Authoritarian Left, which is an immensely detrimental wing. It’s a group where there is no nuance.

        You say that if a trans person says it’s hurting them I should stop doing it. OK, but what if a republican says it? Now suddenly I should ignore them? You can’t base your entire ideology on what members of groups say or demand that others adhere to yours simply because you think you’re right.

        I love trans people, and I actively fight for them and their rights. But why? I’ll tell you, it’s not because Democrats told me to love them, or a religious leader, or anyone in politics. I looked at the world critically and found their cause worthy.

        I’m a durable ally. I’ll stick with it when it’s not cool or trendy, or when it comes at a cost. But that’s because I arrived at those truths myself.

        To loop all the way back to the premise - if talking about Harry Potter at all hurts Trans people, then this post hurts trans people. If you disagree with that, then nuance exists. And I’m saying in the nuance of how and who I talk about any topic with, I know and understand that those people understand the situation.

        I don’t make public posts about Harry Potter. I often talk about how JK Rowling is a garbage person. My friends have a Harry Potter party that they’ve been hosting for years, and every person there is of a similar mindset that trans people deserve so much more than they are getting.

        You have to allow more than one idea in your head at the same time. If you’re making the rule “talking about Harry Potter in any way, at any time, makes you an active enemy of the trans movement”, then that’s not a place I want to be associated with.

        If you want advice - focus on how JK Rowling is harming people. Elevate that as much as you can. When you make these purity tests, you make people not give a shit because it makes it impossible to adhere to the strict and narrow path you say is OK.

        This authoritarian left wing of democrats is what got Trump elected. They are so hard nosed on every issue they completely isolate people and make these issues harder to fight for, not easier. You’re heart is in the right place, but we live in a world full of nuance, and the real trick is not scolding people into adherence, but it’s coalition building and asking people to think critically about their choices. They have to find their beliefs, you can’t just demand them.

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          This kind of rhetoric rises from what I’ve called the Authoritarian Left, which is an immensely detrimental wing. It’s a group where there is no nuance.

          There is no nuance that you are aware of that the trans people that are calling for a ban of HP haven’t already thought of. It’s their lived experience after all. They know so many more nuances to this, or any other trans issue than you or I do. I don’t know how much time you spend in the discussions of the so-called “👻Authoritarian👻 Left” but I’ve found them to be immensely nuanced. Cis people don’t get a contradictory opinion on what harms trans people and what doesn’t, simple as.

          You say that if a trans person says it’s hurting them I should stop doing it. OK, but what if a republican says it? Now suddenly I should ignore them?

          It’s not just one trans person though is it? It’s a pretty widely held opinion in the trans community afaict. That bit about some hypothetical republican didn’t make sense to me, no idea what you’re trying to say here.

          I love trans people, and I actively fight for them and their rights.

          Maybe a bit more listening is due? A good start would be Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue.

          I’m a durable ally. I’ll stick with it when it’s not cool or trendy, or when it comes at a cost.

          Except when that cost is giving up Hahree Pawttah apparently.

          To loop all the way back to the premise - if talking about Harry Potter at all hurts Trans people, then this post hurts trans people.

          Talk about “no nuance”, obviously this post isn’t suggesting that the mere mentioning of the name is causing trans people worldwide psychic pain. But not purging Harry Potter from your life, giving space to a franchise that is used to hunt trans people is actively harmful. Wouldn’t you be suspicious of someone who is still a huge “The apprentice” fan? Or a huge “Tesla” fan (" Oh I’m not buying their cars, but I still admire them!!")? Similar sentiments apply here.

          You have to allow more than one idea in your head at the same time. If you’re making the rule “talking about Harry Potter in any way, at any time, makes you an active enemy of the trans movement”, then that’s not a place I want to be associated with.

          More generalizations from the nuance-haver, I think it’s addressed above but just to reiterate, its about purging a franchise from your life that is having a toxic effect on the world.

          If you want advice - focus on how JK Rowling is harming people.

          I’ll take my advice on fighting for the trans cause from trans people thanks.

          This authoritarian left wing of democrats is what got Trump elected.

          Source? I don’t believe that the democrats even have a left wing, much less an 👻authoritarian👻 one, much much less one that is powerful enough to have decisive swing in the presidential election.

          the real trick is not scolding people into adherence

          I’m gonna keep telling people that are platforming fascists that they are platforming fascists. If they continue to do it, I can then know where they stand.

    • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
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      Aye. I still have all my first edition books from when I was in 6th grade on and I sure ain’t giving those up, but all the movies live on my server that were obtained from the high seas. I never bought their merch anyway, I’d rather have my band merch.

    • @hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
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      That’s what I told a friend who asked if she should read enders game. Get it from the library or steal it. Orson Scott Card doesn’t deserve your money because he’s a shitty person.

    • @Corn@lemmy.ml
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      I would agree, but the wizard game where the good guys put down a slave uprising isnt just antisemitic and transphobic, even worse, its mid.

      • @BussyCat@lemmy.world
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        It’s basically impossible to be perfect, pirating the work stops the money from going to jk Rowling which therefore stops it from going to anti trans groups.

        Shopping at Home Depot hurts trans people Using Amazon hurts trans people Shopping at basically any big box store hurts trans people

        They are a heavily oppressed group and you aren’t able to live your life perfectly so don’t sweat pirating a game

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          Yeah but it’s not like this is the best literature has to offer, nobody would really lose anything by just not reading a very mid saga.

          • @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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            The movies are good, but the story is also the weakest link. You could swap the story and maintain everything else and it’d probably be just as good if not better.

    • @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      Just pirate all of it.

      how can you enjoy it though? like, don’t you get disgusted knowing you’re consuming the product of a transphobe? fuckin gross

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        The old conundrum of separating the art from the artist. Personally, I think as long as you aren’t giving them any money, have at it.

        a painting by a very famous Austrian

      • @Soulg@ani.social
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        No, frankly viewing anything I try to do for leisure through that lens sounds exhausting and depressing. Just do what you can to avoid financially supporting it, stealing it is fine.

        I don’t even particularly like Harry Potter either

  • @ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    Fuck stopping. Steal it all. Take it and enjoy it without her getting anything. Reclaim the art. Make it your own. Piss her off with fanfic and fan art based on things stolen from her.

  • @Vari@lemm.ee
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    I’ll never. Ever. Understand being rich enough to enjoy the rest of your life and choosing to spend that wealth harming innocent people.

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      Hmm so I have 51.397.624.942 dollars, lets get that to 52BN, right?

      It’s so stupid.

      In my humble opinion it also breaks the social contract; where money is used as a substitute for labour, no one should have hundreds(or wayore ofc) of lifetimes of labour sitting in an account, it doesn’t even make sense.

      How on earth can this be changed/reformed? Having the ability to gift someone a lifetime of labour is a very powerful incentive, one that we did not vote for when it comes to the billonaires.

      Am I making sense?

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    says to stop reading the books and watching the movies with the reasoning of giving a bad actor more money but… I already own them all from before it was known she was an asshat. I’m pretty sure she doesn’t get money when I pop the DVDs in my player or decide to re-read the books on my shelf.

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      That it doesn’t disgust you to consume the media of an open fascist using her money to attempt a genocide is highly suspect

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        List your favorite actors, authors, musicians, products, services etc. I dare you. I’ll absolutely find and point out how something you like is actively harming someone. Where’d the lithium in your phone battery come from? The electronic components? The meat you likely eat?

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          Doing jumping jacks to continue consuming a children’s wizard story from a billionaire who’s paying to insight a genocide is really not something an adult with an adult brain should be doing, but you do you

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            I’m not consuming Harry Potter crap, I’m pointing out your hypocrisy of judging someone based on some unattainable moral standing. You cause harm to others just like we all do.

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              Holy shit, did you just say it’s unattainable to stop watching fucking Hairy Pothead? lol

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                Reading comprehension isn’t really your thing, eh? That’s OK. We all have faults. Everyone reading your replies is getting a good look at yours.

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                  Bro, this whole entire thread is about pointing out all the flaws in JK’s writing, and how her bigotries have always been embedded in her stories, outside of the fact that she’s incredibly transphobic, and currently funding a hate campaign, and you’re calling not consuming this specific media an “unattainable moral standing.”

                  No, I don’t think I need to work on reading comprehension. I think sea lions and goal poster movers need to get banned and removed from the fediverse completely, like the parasite that you are.

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        I don’t think it’s terribly suspect. What are you even suspicious of? People experience disgust in different ways. I can watch Kevin Spacey and not be disgusted, even if he’s a piece of shit. And I like Tarantino movies too, even though he’s also, ah, suspect.

        As far as I’m concerned, the old J.K. Rowling was murdered and replaced by a bodysnatcher who gets the royalties from her work. Engaging with the fandom and paying for new HP stuff is bad, but otherwise let’s not police people who just want to enjoy their childhood favourite thing.

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          It is hard to understand, actually. I don’t understand how you consume something that’s been over for 20 years, that was intended for children, and contains veiled racism and fascist undertones that go right over the head of average people, and still sit here in 2025 going, “I regularly pop Hairy Plopper into my Dee Vee Dee player” like

          I guess it doesn’t matter, though, because now the next time you plop that thing in you’re going to think of these posts.

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            contains veiled racism and fascist undertones that go right over the head of average people

            You got any examples of it promoting these ideas and not not being a negative critique of them? All the examples of bigotry and authoritarianism in the books and films are rightfully portrayed negatively; not something to celebrate.

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              The goblins are Jewish caricatures first and foremost, and most obviously. I thought we as a society knew that most portrayals of goblins have always been antisemitic, but that’s aside from every other character in HP being some kind of stereotype metaphor. There’s a reason that became a meme, and is still a meme. i.e., stuff like, “JK has announced that her newest character, John Gayman, is a gay man!” for a rough example.

              I don’t particularly agree with every single thing listed here, but these are some more examples to mull over: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/kaxw28/i_made_a_list_of_examples_of_racism_prejudice_and/

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                Yeahh, people talk about the goblins being anti-semitic but honestly they don’t seem any more anti-semitic to me than typical goblins. Like, yeah, goblins in fantasy are all vaguely anti-semitic, sure. Wato from star wars is way more anti-semitic.

                What gets me is Seamus Finnigan. That guy’s a walking stereotype.

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        To me this reads like one of those bad jokes on the expense of trans people in 90’s media. Like how Ace Ventura has sex with a trans woman, then only after he learns it, he starts gagging and washing his teeth religiously and like pumping his face with a plumber; it’s hypocritical. You already enjoyed it, now you’ve learned something about it, it’s suddenly shit and retroactively changes your previous enjoyment to disgust?

        Perhaps you never liked HP, but practically the entire world did, before we knew how JKR will turn out. I’m not gonna give her a cent and previously used money for any HP related things like… 20 years ago, but I’m also not going to pretend they weren’t meaningful to me or that her politics will retroactively change those feelings.

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    Go read Le Guin’s Earthsea books instead, which are genuinely better written, and LeGuin was a great person who wrote a lot of socially progressive literature. Not to mention that it hasn’t been turned into a fucking corporate media franchise like LOTR.

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      I mean there is a a terrible TV adaptation starring Iceman and Lana Lang as well as a beautiful but boring Ghibli movie, but I agree that Earthsea is amazing.

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      JK Rowling:

      We’ve all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That’s who we really are.

      Proceeds to fund fascists

      Ursula K. Le Guin :

      Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisoned by the enemy, don’t we consider it his duty to escape? The moneylenders, the knownothings, the authoritarians have us all in prison; if we value the freedom of the mind and soul, if we’re partisans of liberty, then it’s our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can.

      (Apparently frequently misattributed to Tolkien. I love his writings but the man was not nearly as based as Ursula Le Guin)

      I know this has energy, but I did try to look for a Rowling quote that wasn’t some uninspired one-liner that she unconsciously copied from some Disney movie

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    I would love to understand why saying “Don’t support cunts” is such a non-controversial statement.

    Until it comes to Harry Potter.

    Especially considering how simple it is to do.

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        There is a huge difference between a company being very protective about their intellectual property and somebody actively working on destroying lives on humans.

  • @LifeOfChance@lemmy.world
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    I know this is going to generate hate but, I just cant care anymore. She’s a genuine POS who won’t be missed but its my one single escape from reality. Im far to exhausted trying to tiptoe around everyone who’s a POS. I’d say I’ll stay at home but my builders were probably a POS too and I gotta go sell my house to make SOMEONE happy. If others wanna get her canceled and by some magic remove everything shes ever done from existence I’ll make sure not to get upset but Im done being asked to be a soldier in every battle against a bad person.

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      I understand the sentiment. But then I’d say: buy used media.

      As long as she doesn’t get any money

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      my builders were probably a POS too and I gotta go sell my house to make SOMEONE happy

      Your builders don’t continue to receive payment for your house after it is built, right?

      but Im done being asked to be a soldier in every battle against a bad person.

      I think that is sorta overselling what a boycott is.

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      …its [sic] my one single escape from reality.

      What, have you become incapable of reading another book or something since HP dropped? Sounds like a rough existence tbh.

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      Did the rest of your books, local library and internet connection burn in a freak accident? Why couldn’t you just read anything else, which would also likely be better?

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    “There is no ethical consumption under capitalism”

    “Learn to separate the art from the artist”

    People grew up with this franchise. It is very much a part of the identity of those within the fandom. Stop villainizing them for their interest in the franchise just because JK turned out to be a bigoted bitch and is using her royalties to bankroll bigoted organizations.

    Want to bitch about something? Bitch about the overarching systems that make interacting with your interests tangentially associated with funding bigotry and hate due to a convoluted system of ownership.

    P.S.: Jesus fuck the downvotes. Guess I pissed off some reactionary liberals.

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      “There is no ethical consumption under capitalism”

      That’s not a blank check to not bother with ethics though.

      “Learn to separate the art from the artist”

      You know Death of the Author is just a literary analysis tool, right?

      Stop villainizing them for their interest in the franchise just because JK turned out to be a bigoted bitch and is using her royalties to bankroll bigoted organizations.

      They aren’t being villainized for their interest in the franchise, they’re being villainized for for contributing to the bigoted organizations fund.

      Want to bitch about something? Bitch about the overarching systems that make interacting with your interests tangentially associated with funding bigotry and hate due to a convoluted system of ownership.

      I can bitch about more than one thing at a time, it’s not either/or.

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        Jesus Christ you missed the entire point.

        No, it isn’t just a literary analysis tool, it is also a statement making social commentary about how someone can consume a piece of media without being supportive of the author and their actions as a private individual.

        It absolutely is either/or, because if you understand the point of the latter one then it invalidates the reasoning behind the previous assumptions.

        It isn’t the consumer’s fault that the product they enjoy is tangentially used to fund oppressive organizations. Literally every single thing you consume under capitalism contributes to the oppression of a marginalized person. That’s kinda the fault of the system we are forced to live under. Blame the system, not the individual.

        You can bitch about the individual all you want, and I’ll continue to call everyone who does a shortsighted, myopic fool.

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          it is also a statement making social commentary about how someone can consume a piece of media without being supportive of the author and their actions as a private individual

          That’s true, unless you are buying the products or watching the shows on a service, which would be supportive of the author.

          It absolutely is either/or

          Stopped reading because that is so blatantly wrong, trying thinking harder please.

          It isn’t the consumer’s fault that the product they enjoy is tangentially used to fund oppressive organizations

          That’s also true, but it is the consumer’s fault if they continue to support products that are used to fund oppressive organizations, particularly if it isn’t a necessity, and particularly particularly if they are quite well informed about the issue.

          Literally every single thing you consume under capitalism contributes to the oppression of a marginalized person

          Yes, but some things are essential to living, but even in those cases the consumer can STILL vote with their wallet. I repeat, “no ethical consumption under capitalism” is not an excuse to make the choice to support unethical organizations when there are more ethical alternatives.

          If someone told me they specifically bought slave labor produced goods because they are always cheaper, they would still be wrong even though everything in our system exploits someone somewhere, because there is always a choice between lesser evils.

          You can bitch about the individual all you want, and I’ll continue to call everyone who does a shortsighted, myopic fool.

          Sorry you’re so triggered that people are rightfully judging you for choosing your little fandom over human rights, but it’s a choice you are actively making. Stop being a pussy and hiding behind excuses, you support J.K. Rowling because you want to.

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            No, buying the product=! Supporting the author. Again, since you seem to be dull I’ll repeat for you “learn to separate the art from the artist”.

            I’m also gonna stop reading cause it’s clear you don’t think at all. Your position is shortsighted and myopic. Learn to think critically and stop blaming individuals for systemic problems.

            Simple minded idiots like you are why the world is going to shit.

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              buying the product=! Supporting the author

              that’s actually exactly what it is, like that is literally the most straightforward and direct way to support an author

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      Nah, even if you try to separate the art from the artist, her worldview still comes through, from the racist naming to Harry becoming a cop to the complete lack of examination of why magical fascism rose. The most telling part is that Magic Hitler was defeated by a quirk of nature, completely unrelated to the battles the rest of wizardkind were fighting or any actions taken by any characters during the time of the books.

      • @WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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        By that logic, no one can enjoy anything but Andor. Every piece of entertainment is liberal or flawed in some way. Doesn’t stop people from enjoying them.

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        Yea it’s children’s media. It’s never been touted as a literary masterpiece. That doesn’t change that people love the setting and wish to enjoy the media that takes place within it. I’m not here to criticize the works themselves on their literary merits for being copaganda and liberal hogwash.

        The problem people have is that it is tangentially funding her, through the royalties she receives from how our system has structured ownership that entitles her to reimbursement. Yet, I guarantee, if all these people looked behind the curtains of the things they buy, then they will find they routinely “support” similar people through that same system of convoluted ownership funneling funds into their bank accounts.

        So anyone trying to villainize people for enjoying a media franchise that they hold dear to them is a straight up hypocrite whose opinion I give zero shits about, unless the person laying that criticism literally has never engaged with the capitalist markets in any capacity.

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      Guess I pissed off some reactionary liberals.

      While I disagree with the rest of your take, I could at least respect your opinion right up until your edit with this at the end. I can’t see your downvotes from my instance, but calling everyone that disagrees with your unpopular opinion “reactionary liberals” is a pretty weak effort on your part.

      • @Crankenstein@lemmy.world
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        Cool. I don’t respect the opinion of those who disagree with this take. Those who blame the individual for systemic issues that are beyond their control are by definition reactionary. They react to the individual action and assign them blame for something that is not their fault rather than take into account the system factors that surround these choices.

        So I really don’t give a shit if you don’t respect my opinion. I don’t respect yours.

        • Norah (pup/it/she)
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          I’m really sorry that you see everyone opposed to your views in this way, it must feel really miserable from where you’re standing. Have a nice day ✌️

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            And I’m sorry you cannot understand how disrespectful and unworthy of respect it is to hold the position to blame people for things beyond their control and for simply trying to live their life and enjoy the things they like.

            People who do that are shitty people.

    • @Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Excuses for financially supporting every effort she makes to harm trans people. It’s a piece of media and just isn’t that important, watch other movies, read other books. You shouldn’t make excuses for giving money to someone you actively know is doing bad with it. You can have fond memories without giving her money, it’s not hard. I grew up with Harry Potter, but let’s be real here it doesn’t fucking own the “wizarding school” genre, it’s far from the only piece of media that explores it’s themes and concepts, and saying “it’s fine to give money to horrible people of you have enough nostalgia of their works” is the most spineless sentiment I’ve seen here in a while. Things are more important than your stupid fucking Harry Potter media.

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        Thanks for your shitty and shortsighted opinions. You can fuck off with them now.

        Literally, everytine you buy anything at the store. You have given money to shitty people who will use that money to do shitty things. Welcome to life under the capitalist economy.

        BLAME THE SYSTEM. NOT THE INDIVIDUAL

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          I will not, in fact, fuck off with them. You can recognize a poor system, but not use that as an excuse for shitty individual behavior. Always try to be better, always try to make better purchasing decisions. Buy used, buy refurbished, don’t engage with poorly written books and movies written by transphobes. You really cannot compare purchasing things you need to live to purchasing entertainment.

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            Cool. Fuck off. I do not care about the myopic judgments of a hypocrite.

            There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Fuck anyone who judges others for simply trying to enjoy their life.

            I’m not comparing anything to things people need to live. I know 100% it is entertainment. What you have failed to grasp is that no one has any right to judge others for their media consumption. I guarantee the media you consume also tangentially supports horrid organizations through the convoluted system we live under. Somewhere along the chain you have enabled the exploitation of someone, somewhere. That is the nature of the system we live under. This fact is inescapable.

            So fuck off blaming the individual for what is a systemic problem. Emphatically, go fuck yourself and your opinion on this matter.

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              Systemic problems existing isn’t a catch all excuse that means you can do anything you want, fuck the consequences. If you knowingly support bigotry and hatred, I and all other trans people I know are not safe around you. The things you buy have different impacts, you can make choices in your life that matter, actually, even within the context of capitalism. We can definitely all look back at things we purchased that in hindsight we probably shouldn’t have. In particular the yearly-release model smartphones have taken is particularly wasteful and the materials used to manufacture them are supplied significantly by slave labor. I also don’t think it’s reasonable to throw your hands in the air and say “ah but there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, that means it’s okay for me to buy the newest iphone, every single year!”. I regret purchasing a steam deck for the same reasons. While obviously it’s obvious that slave labor is much more significant than JK Rowling and her bigotry, it’s the same logic. When you learn that something you spend money on is funding bad shit, the correct course of action is to do whatever you can to not spend money on said bad shit. I’m not judging people for having been Harry Potter fans, the judgement is on that refusal to reflect and course-correct their behavior. It’s spineless.

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    I made the same decision with Brandon Sanderson and his fuckin fanclub takes it extremely personally when I point out how problematic he is as an author.

    Yes, his writing is good. Yes, his writing is remarkably inclusive with regards to sexual orientation, disability, and mental illness.

    However, Brandon is a Mormon first and foremost, and actively tithes to his church. That means a significant percentage of ALL Dragonsteel profits go directly towards the suppression and disenfranchisement of LGBTQ+ programs, sex education, and effective mental health services.

    He might write a good story, but his IRL politics are repugnant.

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      I read the Mistborn books, and wasn’t terribly impressed. Anyone that repeatedly and unrepentantly uses the phrase “decked him in the face” is not a good writer. :)

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    I think all the attention y’all give to her is what’s keeping this in the cultural spotlight. I basically never think about her, or the books, until I see posts like these on the internet. We gotta separate the art from the artist.

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      Normally I’d agree, but Harry Potter is already huge.

      And while I think this whole response is a bit extreme, it is a case of her source of wealth being way more famous than herself.

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        I can get behind being in spite of her & other wealthy elites but I can’t abandon what my time with those books meant to me despite of her spite. So, y’all can guillotine her, I’ll still keep the books. But it really is the case that when I hear about her it’s because of these kinds of posts nowadays.

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    Yeah that’s fucking stupid. Most fans of a franchise care about the franchise, and especially with one this old, they treat it as a part of their identity and deeply like it.
    Stupid statements like this will only alienate them and make them give Rowling money anyways. Instead, you could easily get some people to avoid paying Rowling for stuff (e.g. buy third-party Merch or second-hand stuff) and reclaim it (e.g. supporting the actors’ views instead).