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The title is a bit click-baity.
Steam had a setting where it would only run Proton on games on which it had been verified to work. Some people would inadvertently flip this setting off. Now the setting is gone, so they can’t accidentally do this.
That setting defaults to off. Changing the default to on means new users won’t have to figure out it exists, and shows confidence in proton
Yes, exactly. I wonder how many new, non-technical users tried Proton for the first time with the setting off and decided it was crap because nothing worked. I’m glad Valve decided to do this now.
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Yeah honestly this was super dumb. I’ve seen so many people make the mistake of not turning this on (myself included). Even watched a dude make a whole video about Linux gaming with it disabled. It’s so stupid to have it off by default.
Do you mean the setting called “Enable Steam Play for all titles” that was usually unchecked, that you’d have to go in and check, which some folks wouldn’t do (because they might not have known they were supposed to?)
Yeah i had heard Linux gaming was good but when installed steam i found only like 10% of my games were showing as playable for Linux. Next day i realized i needed to turn on the proton option or whatever
Mfw i have been going into individual steam properties to select a proton version for all my games for the last 2 years.
RIP
It was the other way around. The default was to run proton-enabled games, but not random titles, unless you enabled proton for everything via the toggle (“enable for all titles”) which was off by default.
Now it’s on by default and the switch is gone, so it’s can’t inadvertently be switched off.
Bro, I’m so fucking close to removing Microsoft from my life
Do it, just don’t play the games that don’t work on Linux. I switched 15 years ago and didn’t look back. There are so many games at this point why bother with the ones that only work on Windows?
The only game I actively played that didn’t work on Linux was destiny 2, and switching to cachyOS has really helped me kick that toxic game out for good.
I got that game for free and I overpaid.
For some reason it seems to me like toxic games are less likely to run on Linux compared to the average
It comes down to how much the publishers care about their own product. Devs shoveling third party kernel anti-cheat into their product often cause those games to be Linux incompatible. Devs bundling their own unnecessary launcher with the game and requiring it to run the launcher in order to run the game sometimes cause those games to be Linux incompatible. It often isn’t even the devs themselves making this decision, which is why I blame the publisher more than the developers in most cases.
But with how robust Proton has become these days there isn’t a whole lot outside of those two cases that will make a game not run on Linux. It’s pretty intentional at this point.
The whole reason I have a computer is to game on it though! :P
Outside of a handful of multiplayer games pretty much any game will work under proton, new or old. Stalker 2 worked out the box on release day, early awkward 3D games like Gothic runs just fine, and your early point and click games will likely run just fine. Out of my 460 games*, only EA WRC doesn’t work because they introduced kernel level anti cheat after release.
*Edit: Just to clarify i haven’t tested all my games, but I have played a good number of them. Also another game that doesn’t run is Ground Control 2, but that doesn’t work on Windows since about 7 or 10, so it doesn’t count! ^^
I easily game +6 hours a day on Linux though. PoE 1-2, D2, modded d2, Cyberpunk, witcher3, ffxiv, Monster hunter world-ride-wilds, HotS (year the blizzard client works and with it all blizzard games without anticheat)… To name a few.
I already don’t have time to play all the games I want to play. Narrowing that list somewhat isn’t going to change that for me, so why not Linux?
Best thing I ever did. I got tired of being told how I could use my computer and the spying or course.
I did it a few months ago, honestly after the initial learning it has been a great experience. That’s including me having to fuck around with stuff because I chose to run extremely new graphics hardware, and that’s kinda on me.
From a gaming perspective: Get a new drive (NVMe/whatever your OS is on), drop Nobara on it, be done, have the option to switch back without a hassle if you need it for some special tasks or games.
And after 6 months find out that you never actually did that so delete windows/migrate it into a VM and enjoy the extra game drive you won.
That’s at least what worked for 90% of my friends meanwhile.
The only person I know who routinely uses windows is myself- and I only do so,because I need certain MS Office stuff that I need for work. (And no,libre or Softmaker,etc. are sadly not a replacement for that. )
After my experience with nobara blowing up after a major update I’d probably go for bazzite instead
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I’m a few months into Linux Mint on my gaming PC and love it; 99% of my games work. The only one that doesn’t so far is FiveM but that’s because the devs appear to be very anti-linux unless you’re hosting a server.
i mostly quit videogames in order to do this. it’s nice to think that maybe I’ll get some more of them back
I didn’t even know this setting existed lol. I always right clicked into the specific game’s properties and selected the version of proton for that game.
And I did it for each game.
This is a welcome change haha. At least I know there was actually a setting for the rest of the library.
Yes it’s very good they now changed this, because if you manually select a proton version you also override the default. Steam actually knows which proton to use for almost every game if the global setting is just on.
Ah, Good Guy Valve helping us prepare for October eh?
And now Valve needs to figure out how to tell users which game works and which game doesn’t work. Maybe some kind of badge for Proton?
Integrating ProtonDB into the steam client would be a nice.
I tend to do my Steam shopping in the browser and I use the ProtonDB-Peek userscript. This gives a ProtonDB status badge in the right column under the review links.
Apparently, this is a browser extension (well, a script for a browser extension), so it works when you browse the Steam catalog through your web browser, but not through their client. Or did I miss anything?
Correct, that’s what I meant to imply in the first part of my comment. When I research new games I do that from a web browser and that’s when I care about Proton status the most so this works great for that. It does not help when using the Steam client.
Thanks. You even did specify you used it from a browser, I wasn’t paying attention, sorry.
Steam deck compatibility is close enough to the same thing.
A lot of games that that don’t work on steamdeck because they need more performance still work perfectly well with proton on a decent gaming rig
They’ve already expanded it into a non-deck-speciphic thing for the other compatible handhelds.
https://github.com/OMGDuke/protondb-decky
You mean like this?
Like that, but default on Steam client and store game page.
Makes sense
Unfortunately this doesn’t work on the store pages.
As someone who hasn’t yet migrated their gaming PC to linux, does this mean that third-party games imported into steam should work automatically? No flags or config adjustments?
If so, will it choose specific Proton versions for known games or pick a default (latest, I presume) version for all of them?
Right now, all you have to do is go to the settings of your non-steam game, go to compatibility, and choose a Proton version. I’m not sure if this change will automate it, but it’s pretty much as easy as it can be already.
If that’s really all there is to it at the moment, sounds great! The other obstacles are my nvidia graphics card, and HDR support…
I’ve had good experiences with my Nvidia card on Aurora (same basis as e.g. Bazzite), but HDR is indeed still an issue.
i feel like desktop nvidia cards are ok, laptop nvidia cards are a nightmare because of the weird igpu/dgpu shit under the hood
That’s why I chose a laptop without iGPU, because only one GPU means less hassle.
Guess what: the Nvidia drivers aren’t setup for laptop dGPUs without iGPU. It’s horrible, even worse than my last laptop with two GPUs.
And the battery life is ridiculous.
I haven’t had any issues with my 3070, and HDR works fine on kde-arch
Kinda late to the conversation but always follow the documentation for your distro, if you choose Debian find Debians guide to installing drivers, if you choose Arch follow Arch’s documentation and so on, Nvidia themselves supply .run files for Linux drivers however some distro’s don’t work with these so just be careful.
I learned this the hard way when I used Nvidia’s .run files and wondered why games kept stuttering every couple seconds, learned this lesson pretty quick.
Good to know, appreciate it
You can just add them and start them. If it doesnt work immediately, you can look at protondb which solution works best.
Hot like FIRE!
Finally
Just in time for my new nvme drive so I can fully segregate windows and Linux after that mf broke my install again
Yeah that’s what I did but Windows will insert itself to the top of boot entries in UEFI anyway lol
Install Windows on a separate SATA drive so you can remove it later without repartitioning. Also it is easier to boot, just change boot drive on startup.
Yeah I currently have Linux and windows sharing my only nvme drive because I wanted to use the fastest drive for the OS but clearly it’s causing issues. So I just bought a cheaper one that I will dedicate to windows, along with a sata SSD.
Do you think I can get away with just wiping the partitioned drive and reinstalling both OS, keeping their data drives as is, since they are already each entirely dedicated to one OS ? Or should I do a full clean ?
So if I turn on the global setting, does it mean it will run native linux games with proton as well? I’m mostly playing rimworld and project zomboid, which have native Linux builds.
No. To use the Windows build you need to specifically request it in the game’s properties
Yup, just tested it with rimworld. Thanks!
Proton is only for running Win32 binaries
I know, I was asking about which version will Steam decide for when I have the global setting on.
Probably so, there are a few native Linux builds on Steam that don’t have feature parity or segregate multiplayer for silly reasons. (Total War: Warhammer III for example uses an entirely different method to generate random numbers in the native Linux build so you need to use proton to play with ‘friends’ on Windows)
Oh weird. I had an issue where I couldn’t play Dawn of War II with my brother on windows from my Mac. I solved it by using windows through boot camp, but that’s so lame.
I wonder if it’s the same issue.
Gaming on Linux gets worse and worse every article he writes
