Former Gov. Andrew Cuomo conceded New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary to Zohran Mamdani as the 33-year old member of the state Assembly had a significant lead in the race Tuesday night.
Cuomo’s concession came as the race’s outcome will be decided by a ranked choice count after neither Democrat got a clear majority in the vote.
Mamdani, a 33-year-old democratic socialist member of the state Assembly, started to pull ahead with more than an estimated 80% of ballots counted.
This is why ranked choice has been banned in a lot of places. It breaks the duopoly.
The election here was the Democratic primary. It didn’t cut the Democrats out of the loop.
Democrats hate progressives. The two would be separate parties in a sensible democracy, but in the legacy first-past-the-post American system, splitting the party while Republicans exist is political suicide. There are more progressives than center Democrats, but they are not as united as the core establishment Democrats are, which made any one of them irrelevant in primaries up to now. RCV has given them a real chance for the first time. For example by giving Lander votes to Mamdani in the instant runoff. The moment RCV got implemented, long-serving Democrats started suddenly getting kicked out in the primaries. This terrifies them, so Democrats will continue to fight against RCV in the future. Just look how both Cuomo and Adams will try to commit political murder-suicide now by running as independent in the general just so that the “official Democratic party nominee” would not win.
Democrats hate progressives
Democrats hate socialists. Their job is to ensure that the leftward fringe of the party, and of acceptable mainstream discourse, never moves past progressive/social democracy. The Democratic Party serves capital by ensuring a neutered American left
Hopefully this can be changed
At least RCV is a single and measurable cause to ralley around. I feel like public pressure tends to be more effective when focused on causes such as these.
Democratic Voters don’t hate progressives, its the rich doners that hate progressives so they spend millions to fund the status quo candidates to keep thenselves rich.
Ha ha, whoops I should read the articles.
Let’s fucking goooooo
Thank fuck
Hopefully he wins the general
Adams doesn’t stand a chance
Wtf happened to Adams? Sure, he was under criminal corruption indictments, then cozied up to Trump and got “pardoned” (charges dismissed). But then he was supposed to be on the Democratic primary ballot, his picture was even in the official voter guide from a month ago, but on election day his name wasn’t even in the list? Now he’s apparently running as independent incumbent instead? What a booger!
EDIT: Both Cuomo and Adams are intending to run as independent in the general? WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
Because the US doesn’t really have a true democracy. It’s always going to be weighted against the actual interests of the people. The more success candidates the Zohran have, the more the established politicians will stack the deck against them. The good thing is that the more the game is rigged the more obvious it all becomes.
The article says Adams is running as an independent, and that Cuomo has the option and is looking into it! It’s not decided.
He’s probably trying to save face; he’s on record in May saying he’s running no matter the result of the primary.
centrists are still the wing of puma pac.
And they had the temerity to say “no matter who” for three fucking election cycles.
This is the dream of ranked choice. The more candidates the better.
Don’t understand why it wasn’t done this way in the first place. RCV was approved as a New York City Charter amendment by a voter initiative in 2019, but only applies to primary city elections, not general. You’d think procedurally it would be easier to justify altering the general election process that the Constitution actually applies to, rather than what is technically internal business of independent private organizations (the Democratic and the Republican parties).
WhyTF do we even have primaries then!
So progressives don’t get any ideas. As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can’t split the vote again.
As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can’t split the vote again.
Do you actually understand the difference between FPTP and ranked choice?
They’re talking about the general election, which is FPTP, and losing primary moderates refusing the result and trying again in the general.
The NYC general is FPTP, and Cuomo is running anyway despite having lost the primary. Neither me nor the other person are criticizing anyone for running in the primary.
Do you actually understand the voting process you’re commenting on?
I assume you mean in reference to the general last year? I raged against the way the left brought disaster upon the Palestinians despite their best intentions. This outcome, however, is exactly what I argued the left should be doing: fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general. You are damn close to sham elections as it is, giving the facisits any opportunity to shut down democracy is self defeating.
fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general
That’s how it should have worked, except that in the 2024 Democratic Presidential primary, when Biden was the only name on the ballot, we were STILL told to vote for him and only him or we’d be supporting Trump. In the primary! Voters in Michigan tried to campaign for “uncommitted” option in protest of the ongoing genocide in Gaza and how the administration was ignoring it, and they were crucified by establishment Democrats. Even Bernie Sanders distanced himself from the protest vote, saying to vote Biden no matter what. In the primaries!
The way Democrats run primaries is shameful, no denying it. But the only way to change the dems is to get actively involved, push for RCV, start grass roots, and, yes, vote for the good guy in the primary.
and, yes, vote for the good guy in the primary.
when the party deigns to have them.
I assume you mean in reference to the general last year?
That’s the most recent example, yes, but you get this spiel whenever you suggest going against the party in anything beyond local elections.
I raged against the way the left brought disaster upon the Palestinians despite their best intentions.
Where are you getting the idea that it was the left that let Trump win? Democrat non-voters were for the most part moderates.
fight FOR the left in primaries, vote AGAINST fascists in the general.
The whole point of this mantra is to not split the anti-fascist vote. And what are the Democrats doing now after not getting their way? Ignore the primary and split the anti-fascist vote. The whole point of not splitting the vote is defeated when the liberals then decide to split the vote. I’m also very much not convinced that a vote for Democrats is a vote against fascism given that they just voted not to impeach Trump.
Where are you getting the idea that it was the left that let Trump win? Democrat non-voters were for the most part moderates.
no centrist has ever cared. they don’t want to move to the left under any circumstances, so they blame the left every time their unpopular policies, refusal to represent anyone but themselves, cowardice, and complicity lose them elections.
So you don’t have to spend millions on a liberal Joe Rogan, or attack trans people, or support genocide to win a race in America? God damn, that’s incredible!
I’m very happy to hear this news. Genuinely one of the best news I’ve heard all year round. Maybe there is a sliver of hope.
I don’t mean to blunt your enthusiasm, but this was just a primary election, so only registered Democrats were voting here. So a much different demographic than 51 separate Presidential elections. But still, it’s a sign that the voters in the city are fed up with the politics-as-usual the party is force-feeding them.
There are a lot more Democrats than Republicans there, though, so this should give him the inside track for the job, especially if Cuomo backs down from his threat to run Independant. (I think he knows that if he did that, he will never win an endorsement from any other Democrat, ever, so that may give him pause.) Adams is running as an independant, but I think the city is done with him. Curtis Sliwa is the Republican nominee, but he hasn’t been relevant since the 80s and 90s, and is kind of a cartoon now.
You are way understating his odds at winning the general.
Your implicit argument that so-called “centrist” Democrats are better at winning purple states because voters all exist along a simple left to right spectrum is absolutely wrong. The people in this country are fed up and they want revolution. Republicans offered it, and Democrats didn’t. The rightward lurch was just an artifact of people rationalizing their vote and conforming to the stereotype on offer.
One big excuse the Democratic establishment gave was that the world is in an anti-incombancy mood. That’s a correct observation, but what is really happening is the death of neoliberalism everywhere. The one big outlier to the trend was Mexico where an aging male President successfully handed the reigns over to his protege, a younger woman. The difference is, they were progressives. Mexico is also arguably a more religiously conservative country than America.
The wonky framing of the US electorate has been the standard Democratic perspective for decades. It’s what led to the income inequality we have now. It’s what led to Trump, and the complete routing of Democrats in both federal and state governments. For the love of God, wake up already.
The Democrats don’t win because they aren’t real people, they are characters on TV that people are sick of. Neoliberalism drains the blood and passion that people want to see in leadership. Republicans have it, and Democrats don’t. It’s past time that changed.
You just have to ignore all polls and vote with your conscience. The polls were clearly bullshit imo. All the chatter completely ignoring everyone but Adams and Cuomo were bullshit.
Yes you do. I hate to be a pessimist, but Trump and all he’s doing is a major contributor souring people about extremists and establishment. If Harris had won, I don’t think this would have been the outcome because people wouldn’t be nearly as riled up about politics, in general.
When rumpy won in 2016, after my initial shock I thought, well maybe he will make it so bad, we will collectively be forced to see the truth, forced to come together and actually have a positive change for the working people.
I didnt know then, that I’d be fearing for the loss of democracy as a whole in 2025, but I think my initial thought still stands.
Maybe this wouldn’t be the outcome if Harris won, but if the silver lining is people start paying attention, I’m happy for it.
Yeah, I certainly hope they do as well! It’s high time people started to give a fuck about what our elected leaders do.
If the sexual predators coalition had won this thing the party might have collapsed. So this is good for the party and the city.
I saw this somewhere else, but if Cuomo tries to run in the general election as an independent, Mamdani’s line should be: “Cuomo: no means no”.
It is unfair to reduce them to that. They are also staunch supporters of genocide and imperialism.
> stupid, barely democratic election system
> only assholes and morons get elected
> change to a sensible system
> an actual representative of the common people gets elected
> mfw
Who knew making it easier for voters to pick a candidate makes the candidates easier to pick?
Sure would be nice if this is a sign of things to come
Mamdani destroyed Cuomo in the first round of RCV, when it was expected to be much closer. This gives me a hesitant hope that nationally the voters want real change within the Democratic party. Let’s just hope this isn’t a fluke, and the technofascists have really awoken a huge progressive voting bloc.
The squad was born in the original Trump administration so it shouldn’t be that surprising to see a return of these kinds of progressive candidates.
Fingers crossed, but give us rank choice voting or I fear the progressive bloc will not be obvious
Oh this news made me smile. Let’s go NYC!
“Nearly a quarter of early voters had not voted in a Democratic primary at any point between 2012 and 2024.”
https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-primary-results-2025-election
Here you go folks- GET INVOLVED! Go vote! Every single election, especially primaries.
Alternately: people actually fucking vote when you give them something, anything, to vote for!
CGPGrey is that you?
As non american I just discovered Mamdani and he seems like a legit dude who cares and has the energy to match. Wishing luck to New York friends here!
Didn’t he just announce he was going to run third party yesterday anyway?
I swear I read an article about that on here
Not quite yesterday, but yeah.
Honestly that may be the best scenario for Zohran, Cuomo and Adam’s would split the corrupt corporate centrist vote and give him an easy win.
Someone is going to run as an independent in the general election. I really hope they aren’t able to rat fuck this win.
Honestly, Cuomo and Adams have the same target demographic: assholes. Everyone else backs Zohran
I hope I am wrong. But I have a fear that the knives are going to come out more so than they have already.
And I am proven correct.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/26/politics/cuomo-mamdani-mayor-november-ballot
I sure hope assholes don’t have a large voter turnout in [checks notes] New York City!??
Poor people be voting for the conservative while higher income people be voting for the socialist. This is so ironic…
Edit: Source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/24/us/elections/nyc-mayor-primary-results-precinct-map.html
Looks like the lower income is the Bronx and a bit of Brooklyn. Higher income is Manhattan and the Brooklyn/queens riverfront. The middle income map is more like what I’d expect to see overall based on the neighborhoods. More Cuomo for Staten Island/False New Jersey as well as east Brooklyn/Queens/Don’t call it Long Island (even though they act like Nassau county is out in the country). There’s a bunch of conservative, racist pricks that insist on NYC being the greatest (so they’re definitely part of it) but off in homeowning urban areas pissed that they’re making suburb money but paying urban prices. All while refusing to enjoy the fun parts of the city because they don’t like the people there.
It depends where the cut off is. But there’s a lot of educated people that fall into the higher income category that all too aware what rampant poverty and inequality can do to cause instability. His policies might not benefit them the most but it would still benefit them in some way.
It’s makes you want to cry or throw a big shiny round bomb in someone’s gilded carriage. One of those two.
Now you and your brother can go fuck a meatball. Fucking clowns.
How long before he gets disappeared by ICE?
It’s not out of the realm of possibility, Mamdani was born in Uganda and was naturalized in 2018. If Trump really wants to test his ability to do whatever the fuck he wants, he can try to denaturalize Mamdani for some bullshit reason (even though thats not really a thing) and order him to be sent to CECOT.
Not what I was thinking. Four thugs bust into his house at 3am, stuff him in a van, and he is never seen again.
But your way is more likely.
No, it will end up your way, but to keep the brown natural-born citizens who voted for him from realizing he will go after them next, he at least needs to pretend to denaturalize him, even if that’s not a thing he can do.
Expect a social media post something like “I, Donakd Trmup, hereby declare that your citizenship application was deficient, and you’re gone!”
(Haha, it took effort to write that, my spell check was having fits. And maybe it needs to be in ALL CAPS to be more authentic)
but to keep the brown natural-born citizens who voted for him from realizing
Um, what? He has better support from wealthy whites than from racial minorities.
Plenty of brown natural-born citizens voted for Trump, under the theory that they will be considered one of the “good ones”…
Yes, but the white people who voted for him aren’t going to care about him deporting people for being brown. The brown people who voted for him might, if he doesn’t give at least the barest of excuse
You know? Mebbe 60/40?
Maybe he gets shot in his home like they did Hortman. Maybe just quietly goes to gitmo?
On one hand you have spectacle, on the other hand you have fear. They’re pretty fond of both.
Sshhh you might give them ideas
There is nothing any of us can come up with that Stephen Miller hasn’t dreamed up already.
(And I mean that literally, his sleep is filled with nocturnal emissions generated by imagining he is forcefully deporting people with too much melanin).
This is exactly what I was going to say. Never underestimate how low a Nazi is willing to go, or how creative he can be in getting there.
