mate it’s £5-10 for a 200ml bottle I’d hardly call that cheap
In the city of Utrecht NL they have free sunblock stations spread around the city. It shows the temp and UV rating. But buying it in store is crazy expensive and often the quality is poor. Some fancy tiny spray bottles go up to 12 euros, only good for 3 to 4 uses. wtf. Imagine being ginger, there’s a ginger tax called sunblock.
Then don’t buy the fancy spray bottles, but the big one that lasts for a year or three?
I’m not buying the fancy expensive shit. But the cheap stuff fills pores and creates pimples. Also, don’t use the one from last year, it has an expiration date. The protection goes down significantly.
WTF are those prices. I’d start looking into importing from abroad …
Cost of living in the UK is up 25% since Brexit happened in 2021.
“We’ve become the first country in the history of the world to have placed economic sanctions upon itself” -James O’Brien
We’re a population of morons who will still blame anything but ourselves for the position we’re in.
The British are the Americans of Europe, so that makes sense.
Here in the Netherlands it’s expensive as well. Like a small bottle of name-brand sunscreen is €30.
I buy the store brand from the local supermarket. €2,99 for a 250 ml bottle of SPF 30 and it works great. I never get sunburn, even during multi hour bike rides in the blazing sun.
I have autistic sensory issues and the cheapest one I can at all tolerate to have on my skin is 15€ for 50ml. I have so many of the 5-10€ bottles at home and can’t handle any of them. Fml
Cheap is not the case everywhere. In Germany it’s cheap, in the Netherlands it’s much more expensive and in Croatia a bottle is like 25 Euro
In the US it’s cheap but unregulated and full of shit that’s terrible for you. Or you can pay an arm and a leg for stuff that’s better but still not up to the standards of most other countries. I learned this by getting a chemical burn in my eye from sunscreen… meant for my face.
Oh, that’s bad. Made me think of this sunscreen and in Robocop 2.
In the US it’s cheap but unregulated
It’s the exact opposite actually.
US sunscreen is way worse than sunscreen in other parts of the world like the EU. It doesn’t block the harmful radiation as well. The reason is that it’s more strictly regulated in the US. IIRC it’s not considered a cosmetic product but instead it’s a medical product.
As such it’s subject to much stricter regulation and requires much more (expensive) testing before being allowed on the market. Due to this it’s considered too expensive to introduce the newer, more advanced sunscreen products in the US so you’re stuck with the older, crappier sunscreen.
Edit: Ornery_chemist was a good dude and proved themselves wrong! Hooray! https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/18/1251919831/sunscreen-effective-better-ingredients-fda
I’m down voting both of you because neither provided sauce.
Whoever’s right, gets the updoot.
You can spent 10 seconds googling: Source
The USA is the Wild West when it comes to safety standards of any product.
“ball of fire”
Haha, no no. You threw down with a gigantic source of cell destroying radiation. The fire did no harm.
There’s no fire in the sun. Fire is some material oxidizing, and that’s not what’s happening (or at least not in relevant amounts). What creates the radiation is nuclear fusion.
Every English tourist in Australia.
…and Florida, and Jamaica, and Mexico, and (I presume) Spain. There is no corner of the earth in which the English will not challenge the mighty Helios until they are as red as the cross of St. George.
Australia is a different beast though. I went out for like 10 minutes without a hat or sunscreen on a particularly hot december noon and my nose damn near fell off the day after 😅 Not because I thought I’m too tough to get sunburnt but if you live your entire life in Europe you just can’t imagine the sunshine being this potent. Never happened again after that incident 😄
In New Zealand the sun feels like it’s stabbing you after 10min in summer. I can feel my skin prickling like tiny fire ants.It doesn’t take long to burn here. serious respect for the sun and upper atmosphere
there’s a hole in my ozone dear lyza, dear lyza…
I’m just stayin inside
Ok Bo Burnham
Went out to look for a reason to hide again
but they’re specifically avoiding burning their hams
as a man I have the primal urge to pick a fight with the giant ball of fire in the sky, I lost this time but one day.
Let me let you in on a little secret…you gotta attack at night.
Unfortunately I’ve already committed to it happening one DAY.
Clearly you’ve never met someone like my wife.
So let me tell y’all about the crazies I work with. I burn easily, and there is very little shade, so I store sunscreen everywhere. My desk, the bathroom, my bag, the car, the office supply closet, etc. I often use it and offer to my colleagues when anyone needs to go out for a while.
We got a new guy on the team, he’s going out, I suggest he take some sunscreen. He tells me that sunscreen is poison and that you don’t really need it as long as you don’t wear sunglasses. He tells me that it’s wearing sunglasses that actually causes you to burn because your eyes don’t get as much sun so your brain doesn’t send the right chemicals out to protect your skin.
So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?
Idk. He said his wife still demands sunscreen for their children, so I’ll let him fry himself in peace.
Sometimes I think I’ve heard all the batshit nonsense. Other times I read something like this.
I have a running list of shit I’ve heard from this guy. I’m positive it’s something from Alex Jones or similar.
Yeah I’ve seen an upsurge of people claiming sunscreen is toxic poison. Not sure where the fuck they pulled that from
Everything that will kill you A to Z.
S is for sunscreen, but also the sun. Both give you cancer, isn’t that fun.
Maybe they read something about the titanium dioxide contained in some sunscreen products. There is some research indicating that its not as safe as we thought and that it might be carcinogenic.
It might be but sunburn is definitely carcinogenic.
It’s a good thing my skin isn’t made of coral.
Some of the chemicals do show up a bit in blood, but there’s no evidence it’s toxic iirc.
But it’s gross :C
(summer sunshine is also gross even without sunburns, though)
Cancer or disgust, we all have to choose our preferred consequences.
Or just don’t go into the sun if you can help it …
My excuse is that the weather was predicted as “cloudy” when we left in the morning. When we were on the trip, though, the sun was burning down to extinct humanity instead.
You should be putting sunscreen on regardless, and reapplying every 3 hours.
If you hate the feel of sunscreen like I do, check out UPF clothing 👍
I don’t remember it being cheap
If the cream wasn’t such a goddamn sensory nightmare…
UPF clothes FTWOn the other hand, what bullshit is it that my stupid human body can’t survive being outdoors without medicinal cream. My ancestors would be ashamed.
Mud and henna masks and other full skin coverings are extremely common among indigenous people and presumably your ancestors as well.
We also used to have much more hair, shadowing the skin from sun
Your ancestors had melanin production to fit their sun exposure and seldom lived past 40
Maybe tens of thousands of years ago, but 2000ish years ago 60ish was old age. The main reason life expectancy has gone up isn’t that old people didn’t make it to 50, it’s that young people didn’t make it to 2. If a couple has 5 kids, 3 of them die as toddlers and the other two make it to 70 the average life expectancy is about 30, but that doesn’t mean living past 30 is unusual.
Also, tens of thousands of years ago there was an ice age, but for the last 10k years light-skinned Europeans still had normal summers and worked in the fields.
Yes, that is when we evolved
You must know how averages work. The poster is correct. Average age at death is a horrible metric when you have gigantic birth and infant mortality rates.
No, I mean that for the brunt of humans evolving to be genetically roughly what we are today, it is unlikely many people were living much past their prime. I am talking about roughly 100,000 years ago up to around 10,000 years ago when humans developed from a largely hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
People who live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle today live 65+ regularly. The average may be lower for uncontacted peoples for various reasons, or higher because of reduced disease transmission. I imagine it depends on the group.
Now, I will give you that humans have refined their techniques of hunting etc over that 90k years in a way that caused less accidental deaths.
The crux of the matter though is that the statistical averages you have seen are flawed by infant mortality. In these societies, if you made it past toddler age you were statistically likely to live a long time.
What would be killing people much past their “prime” and how do you define prime?
Your ancestors didn’t shave
I don’t either, but my nose isn’t hairy and it would burn to a crisp outdoors.
Mate. I’m a ginger living in New Zealand. Sunburn is an inevitability.
