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  • Lavender [they/them]English
    87•4 days ago

    Patel and Bongino have since said Epstein committed suicide. But it has become an article of faith online, especially on the right, that Epstein’s crimes also implicated government officials, celebrities and business leaders — and that someone killed him to conceal them.

    Oh fuck right off.

    • Rey_McSriff [he/him]English
      41•4 days ago

      I can tell I scared my friends real bad one time when I casually mentioned this stuff because they think this is all chud conspiracy theories and they thought I had become a “bad” guy

      • ephemeral [any]English
        33•4 days ago

        I 100% believe that pizzagate/QAnon was a psyop to make the public forever associate all discussion of wealthy pedophile rings with whacked-out conspiracy theories. now talking about objectively true, well-documented facts makes you sound crazy to the average low-information liberal

      • Lavender [they/them]English
        25•4 days ago

        Is so frustrating that the collective lib memory will ignore these things and vilify you for remembering.

    • ephemeral [any]English
      35•4 days ago

      the right wing literally worships Epstein’s former best friend, the government official, celebrity, and business leader Donald J. Trump, as a god

      it’s objectively a fact that Epstein was connected to wealthy, powerful, famous people. the FBI itself has come out and said this - before it was taken over by one of those people. by suggesting that discussing this fact is akin to right-wing conspiracies like QAnon, axios is literally covering for pedophiles. is their CEO in the black book too?

      • Lavender [they/them]English
        26•3 days ago

        All I’m saying is that predators are benefiting from labeling this narrative as a right-wing conspiracy like QAnon.

        Believing Epstein didn’t kill himself is hardly a partisan issue and it’s skeevy as fuck to claim otherwise.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]English
        16•3 days ago

        It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the FBI had Epstein on their bankroll so they could blackmail people into becoming informants. The problem law enforcement runs into is eventually they have to cut their informants loose and informants have to be paid. Don’t have to do that if you have guaranteed life in prison to hang over someone’s head. Now you can use them for as long as you want.

  • wideopenarms [he/him]English
    44•4 days ago

    Oh alright then, I wasn’t sure before but I guess it’s all settled now.

    Can they even do proper psyops anymore? It would be so much more effective to come to this conclusion as a somewhat high profile, somewhat respectable group unassosciated with (but with free access of information to) federal agencies. Just make the CIA cutout, hype up the investigation, do some performative and maybe even highly publicized chaffing with the government and then release your totally legit findings.

    E: you could even put Chomsky on the team, he’s already openly defended his association with Epstein and most uninformed “lefties” still take what he says to heart.

    Unless the psyop is freely flaunting the level of control they have to put a cap on the consequences of conspiracies like this, even if the public is aware.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]English
    18•3 days ago

    This just makes the Trump admin look even more guilty overing for Pissreal and Epstien.

    He doesn’t talk about hillary-contempt or billdawg any more either. So much for locking them up. JFK stuff comes out with a bunch of Pissreal mentions but a-little-trolling make your own conclusions.

    Most powerful governemnt and military in the world scared to death over a tiny foriegn Voldemort country and will incriminate their own public for speaking against.