• Brownian Motion
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      This.

      I can handle DDMMYY[YY] it reads correctly. But YYYYMMDD is numerically correct, most signifcant to least significant digitwise.

      That thing only American’s do, is completely non-sensical.

      • For sorting or filing, I agree. I think in day to day life, though, Day and month are way more significant. So I actually prefer DDMMYYYY for that.

        • @tillary@sh.itjust.works
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          DDMMYYYY would be great, if it weren’t for 95% of Americans that use MMDDYYYY. Is 07/02/2000 July 2nd or Feb 7th?

          Thus the only solution is to write out the month or start with the year, because no logical group of people currently use YYYYDDMM. Plus by using YYYYMMDD you get the added benefit of the dates all being sortable using dumber applications.

          • ibk
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            because no logical group of people currently use YYYYDDMM

            You are saying it like if MMDDYYYY made any sense. To someone who uses MMDDYYYY daily, they could think of YYYYMMDD as “Its like the usual but backwards” and now you have a group of people reading it as YYYYDDMM.

            • @tillary@sh.itjust.works
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              You could convince a group of people to use YYYYDDMM, but what I mean is nobody currently uses it. So at this moment of time YYYYMMDD is intuitive, and has a miniscule chance of being mixed up like DDMMYYYY and MMDDYYYY (because a large number of people use these formats).

              Please don’t convince Americans to use YYYYDDMM lol. :-)

          • Makes sense, I just mostly interact with Europeans, so I don’t encounter this problem a lot. I really don’t have a problem with YYYYMMDD though anyway.

        • Fushuan [he/him]
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          I still prefer yyyymmdd for day to day. If year is irrelevant just skip it. If you only use a date format you get used to it and it becomes the most efficient one due to consistency. Sidenote, in my language the default date format is actually yyyymmdd.

      • @pseudonym
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        I absolutely loath the American favorite: 8/9. Like fuck, is that August 9th, September 8th, or just a fraction??

      • Icalasari
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        It is sensical for one use:

        “So when is the event?”
        “May 20th, 2024”

        It’s such a niche use, though

        • @Ascyron@lemmy.one
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          521 year ago

          I think that’s because you’re used to hearing dates said that way? Over here in DDMMYY-land, we often would say “20th of May, 2024” and that sounds equally sensical to me tbh

          • IWantToFuckSpez
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            And in a lot of countries they just say 20 May, 2024. So no ordinal numbers for the day.

        • nevial
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          I know you’ve been bashed already by others, but could you elaborate on why this is sensical?

          • Icalasari
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            In a, “Alright I guess that technically works and at least can follow the logic”. It’s pretty damn niche, however (who is going to ask for two or more years in advanced for a date and not go, “Just text/email it”? Heck, even this is pushing it, but I can at least follow the logic)

            Could be that I’m slightly fucking up definitions in my head, it was a long day yesterday

        • stebo
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          In what way is it sensible?

          I get that you prefer saying it like that, just because you’re used to it. It is conventional but definitely in no way sensible.

          • Icalasari
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            In that it at least has a use that one can go, “Alright I guess that technically works”

      • lukini
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        No, YYYY-MM-DD is fine for real life. Just drop the year when it doesn’t matter. Billions of people use this format.

    • @riimoh@discuss.tchncs.de
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      So if you communicate with someone you will specify the date in the year 2023 september 23rd we shall meet and not 23rd of september 🧐

      • @pseudonym
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        I believe this is still valid according to ISO 8601 so have an upvote. It also works fine in URLs after the host part.

      • @ezures@lemmy.wtf
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        If I had a forint for something matching order in Hungary and Japan, I would have 2 forints, which isn’t a lot but its weird it happened twice. (Its the order of names and dates)

      • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        I use this for notes, and generally everything written; mainly for reference when looking back on old information. Today, whether I say Wednesday the 9th, or 2023-08-09, it’s fairly inconsequential, but in 2-3 years if I have to reference a note, email or something else where I said today’s date, I won’t have to compare the date of the note to the calendar for that time period to see which 9th was on a Wednesday.

        Everything you do now becomes history, so adapting to this format makes it easier when today becomes your history.

    • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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      But we read left to right and the most important part is furthest right hardest to read. It’s convenient for computers sorting alphabetically, but bad for people reading it.

          • @pseudonym
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            The same reason “one thousand” is written 1000 and not 0001

          • @verdigris@lemmy.ml
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            Because it’s the most significant. If it’s wrong or missing you’re off by much more than if the day or month is wrong.

            • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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              But that’s good, like a parity check. Because your wrong by much more, it’s easier to tell from context clues. That’s why people abbreviated the year to ‘in 98’ or something like that.

      • geogle
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        I tried reading your comment right to left and was left even more confused.

      • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        41 year ago

        Okay, hear me out.

        With other numbers, non-date numbers, we put the numbers representing the most quantity to the left, and numbers representing the last quantity to the right, eg 1 hundred, ten and 1 would be 111, where the number representing 100 qty comes first from the left, and each position moving to the right, represents a smaller and smaller amount.

        Since years are longer than months, which are longer than days, the YYYY-MM-DD format actually follows the same convention that we commonly use for all other numbering systems, big on the left, small on the right.

        So why would the date be the exception?

  • @delvan@lemm.ee
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    271 year ago

    I like DDMMYY but for some reason when I include the time as ss:mm:hh nobody shows up to the event on time.

  • Carlos Solís
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    Tired: ISO date format

    Wired: milliseconds since the Unix Epoch

    Galactic brain: Planck time units since the Big Bang

      • Carlos Solís
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        Not if you encode it using an exponent. One Planck time unit is roughly 1.8 x 10-43 seconds, so with an exponent of 2128 (roughly 3.4 x 1038) you could write a second as 54510 x 2128 TP

  • @Samsy@lemmy.ml
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    191 year ago

    I always wonder why old memes are losing pixels and quality. Like an old paper shared over the years.

    • @LemmyFeed@lemmy.world
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      It’s because people keep taking screenshots of the image and sharing the screenshot instead of the original image file. It’s like making a copy of a copy of a copy until it looks like garbage.

      • Stop right there criminal scum, you are not allow to publish original copyrighted works, you are stealing from the artist’s mouth by squandering his market value !

        So that’s why normal people screenshot.

    • @ninchuka@lemmy.one
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      because they get downloaded from say reddit and then reuploaded again a year later or so which since most sites/services compress files uploaded they get worse and worse quality

  • kkard2
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    to make things as not confusing as possible, my rule of thumb is:

    • yyyy-mm-dd (yyyy instead of yy ensures that it’s not mistaken for dd-mm-yy) (hyphens can be replaced with underscores)
    • dd.mm.yyyy (yyyy same as above) (really dislike using for filenames, sorting doesn’t work)
    • mm/dd/yyyy (only if there is no other choice) edit: mm/dd/yyyy vs mm/dd/yy doesn’t matter because both make 0 sense already edit2: i forgor to say that yyyy also avoids y2.1k and subsequent issues
  • ForbiddenRoot
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    To eliminate this confusion I propose the days of the month should start from 13.

    • Kool_Newt
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      101 year ago

      I say we force them to be alphabetical.

      Anuary Bebuary Carch Dapril

    • @jimmux@programming.dev
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      Do we really even need months? They don’t even line up with the lunar cycle like they pretend to do.

      Just give us Year/Day. On leap years we get an extra long New Year holiday.