• Skua
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      UNCLOS has rules defining where the continental shelf boundary can be considered to extend to, so it’s probably wherever that line is (with carveouts for where it meets Russia and Canada’s equivalent claims). This type of claim is only for the sea bed, not the water column, so it hasn’t been economically viable to exploit in the past. That might be changing with the increased importance of rare earth metals

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    China attempts to maintain their territorial claims in the South China Sea after the Philippines and Vietnam conduct island-building operations there in the early-00s: CHINA BAD!!!

    America expanding their territorial claims in the Pacific because they want more natural resources: Yeah, this is fine and reasonable and democratic.

    Canada, who gets no say in the matter because we’re entirely reliant on the US for trade and defence: fuck, eh?

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      One of these claims is compatible with UNCLOS, the other absolutely is not. The US pulls plenty of international dickery, including not ratifying UNCLOS, but this claim fits within that existing international law just fine

      • @flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
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        Stick to the point, though. This is a dick move (increasing the territorial claims, that is - not pointing out whataboutism, that’s all good!)

          • Skua
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            It should be noted that claim is not the same as the better-known exclusive economic zone. The continental shelf thing is only for seabed resources, not stuff in the water column. But that’s all that the US is claiming, so it is indeed in line with UNCLOS

          • @RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
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            I’d argue that expanding the zones a bit doesn’t incur costs other than updating some maps, as existing radar systems etc were already reaching into the newly claimed areas, undoubtedly.

            Am I worried about my country’s creeping reach, and have I suddenly realized there’s yet another way to slowly encroach on territory? Yes.

            E: why the downvotes?

    • Virkkunen
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      I find it amazing how every time you see the shittiest take in this community, it’s a lemmy.ml user. It never fails.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        511 months ago

        Not allowing your fledgling government to simply be devoured by the world empire doing illegal empire shit is as bad as being the empire.

        Do you also think having a gun for protection is the same as having a gun for robbing people?

        • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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          511 months ago

          So ngl when we say death to America that also includes Canada as another terrible settler state with a horrid fucking past and still pretty shit present, so like to be honest don’t really care when a modern day fascist state is consuming/fucking over it’s smaller petite fash state upstairs neighbor.

            • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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              111 months ago

              What hypocrisy? It’s like if Nazi Germany decided to gobble up fascist Italy, both horrid rancid countries deserving of destruction. Fascist countries don’t get to play victim when they get devoured by a larger fascist state they work alongside as a literal 2nd player in the North American stage.

              Just to be sure we are talking about Canada right?

      • @nekandro@lemmy.ml
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        Literally the same bullshit getting pulled in the South China Sea.

        “This ocean is all MY ocean, because I said so”

        (oh oops there’s oil there teehee completely unrelated)