• macniel
    113•11 months ago

    The entire world is leaning so fricking right its saddening :(

    • WtfEvenIsExistence3️English
      35•11 months ago

      Don’t you know about the evil immigrants, ethnic minorities, and gay/lesbian-transgenders that are… checks notes just living their lives and not bothering anyone else.

      Waaaaaah such evilness, I’m scared 😭

      /s

    • Annoyed_🦀 🏅A
      15•11 months ago

      Yeah. The far right party just won a lot of seat from the progressive one in my country. That doesn’t feel good.

    • ScrubblesEnglish
      10•11 months ago

      All we want is people is be chill, why do people gotta be so angry at other people :(

      • @RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world
        7•11 months ago

        Is this a serious question? People aren’t really angry at other people, they are scared and angry about the situation their world is in. There’s a few really bad apples, but most people are just scared they won’t be able to pay their rent 2 years from now.

        • ScrubblesEnglish
          1•11 months ago

          I meant in terms of racism, sexism, homophobia. Why people gotta hate and fear “others”. Just be chill with other people

    • @Kerred@lemmy.world
      -1•11 months ago

      I wouldn’t say leaning right but making more people care less about voting?

      After all it’s easier to convince you all candidates suck than convince you to lean right?

      • @lateraltwo@lemmy.world
        3•11 months ago

        I don’t like what you are saying but it’s actually correct. Abandon idealisms and embrace pragmatisms to combat the anti minority rhetoric

      • macniel
        2•11 months ago

        And you believe that the right will change everything to the better? By doing what? Continue the same exact course but with a now clearly visible brown coat?.

        Why the communism?

  • WtfEvenIsExistence3️English
    55•11 months ago

    Thats why you can’t give every party a fair chance. After what happened last time, Germany now practices what’s called “Defensive Democracy” where parties that are considered anti-democratic can be banned (including banning all successor parties).

      • @30p87@feddit.de
        9•11 months ago

        It’s simply not right enough, considering there’s free speech etc. laws. Even though some (many) members are straight up Nazis and openly express this, the party itself is technically not “too far”-right

        • Kühe sind toll
          5•11 months ago

          You’re right. One of the most famous politicians of the AfD Björn Höcke can be called a Nazi/Facist without any consequences for you, since it isn’t an insult because it’s based on true evidence.

        • Kühe sind toll
          3•11 months ago

          It’s more complex than that. Simply banning it could make everything worse. First of all, banning a party is something that’s very hard. It only happened twice in the history of Germany(except for the banning during the third Reich). Trying to bam them could make everything worse than it currently is, since it would look like the older parties are scared and try to keep their power. This could give the AfD a big boost. Another thing is, that in the case of a failure the AfD could use the fact they weren’t banned to promote themselves as “Democrats” that don’t want to do anything illegal. In the case it would be banned it would take exactly 2 weeks and you have at least 2 or three parties that do exactly the same and maybe would transform into one big party and we have the exact same problem. More effective would be to stop them from receiving money from the government(every party does that so that they can focus on their political work), or to not give the the possibility to enter the Bundestag(or to hold any other form of political office) as its the case with the NPD.

          • @HaiZhung@feddit.de
            2•11 months ago

            Of course it is complex. A few points:

            If you ban a party in Germany, it’s automatically bans all „clones“ of that party, and all of its members in high functions can’t participate in these clones. Failure to comply would lead to an immediate ban of the clone. While I agree that eventually, a new far right with other people will probably form, it would take years for them to reorganize and they would have to be extremely careful. I believe that a ban would probably yield at least 10 years of far-right free politics.

            Appeasement of the far right has failed every time in history, they will cannibalize every attempt to include them in any sort of „rational“ discourse. Banning parties is a lever that exists precisely because of Germany‘s history. IMHO it sends a strong message to all the non-far-right people (of which there are approx. 60-70%) that bullshit will not be tolerated.

            In contrast, doing nothing signals that what the AfD is doing is fine and will move the discourse farther and farther right.

            Stopping funding and preventing them from entering the Parliament is precisely what a ban would do, so I am not sure why the difference is between that and what you are suggesting.

  • @Holzkohlen@feddit.de
    26•11 months ago

    I think we should go round the streets and beat those fuckers back into their holes. Make Nazis afraid again!

  • @wraithdrone@feddit.de
    4•11 months ago

    Yeah well German politicians have really gone out of their way the past couple of years to make that happen. Setting off to tank the economy and self-righteously pushing away any and all criticism has never worked out well for anyone…