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Here is something really bad going on with this person who has their literal freedom threatened, but let me twist this into why this is Elons fault.
IDGAF about Elon or anything he touches, but the mental gymnastics in this are worthy of a Olympic gold medal
The argument is that by making Twitter a far right cesspool, Musk had made it more difficult for non-western dissidents to reach an international audience. Certainly arguable but not entirely wrong.
Yeah, with that headline I am not very inclined to read this.
Yeah, the first 2/3rds of the article covering Naomi Wu was worth a read, but that last 1/3rd… I get her argument, but she should have left that out to focus just on Naomi.
This is something that Naomi had even talked about previously, how Western media only cared about the experience of people living in China when it could suit their narrative, and didn’t want anything to do with them when it didn’t.
Elon sucks, but its not his fault that China disappears dissidents
The theory is that you can get away with a bit more in China if you have a big western audience. She had a fairly big one and that was protecting her, but the audience is fickle (made more fickle by Musk ruining Twitter) and once her audience declined, she lost that protection.
I guess the real lesson is that if you’re Chinese and develop a Western audience, us that to escape China. Don’t stay behind in China because your big audience is painting a target on your back, and eventually the Chinese authorities are going to ruin your life.
As an aside, did anybody else find her vibe really offputting? I liked her content, but her enormous fake boobs and skimpy outfits were a distraction from otherwise interesting content. If I found a video of hers interesting, it made me not want to share that with anybody because they’d think I was watching it because of her body. I’m all for women’s empowerment, if someone wants to look and feel sexy that’s great. But, with her stuff, it was so extreme that it felt like exploitation. Maybe she was exploiting herself, but it still felt icky.
No, because I’m not a 12 year old boy who freaks out every time he sees a set of tits. She can dress however she wants, it has nothing to do with the quality of her content.
She released a video at some point explaining WHY she looked and dressed that way. It was an interesting PoV, and totally unrelated to her hobby as maker and influencer.
I guess the real lesson is that if you’re Chinese and develop a Western audience, us that to escape China. Don’t stay behind in China because your big audience is painting a target on your back, and eventually the Chinese authorities are going to ruin your life.
She couldn’t, her SO was Uighur and couldn’t get permission to leave.
She has a video explaining how she became the way she is that address that. Iirc she was raised as a boy by her parents which was one of the major contributing factors.
That might explain the ridiculous boobs, but not why she still chooses to wear incredibly skimpy outfits in her videos.
Because it’s her body and she can do whatever she wants with it.
Being able isn’t a reason to actually do something.
A reason would be “Because I feel like it”“because I feel like it” is a good enough reason to give a stranger.
“Because I feel like it.”
So in other words, because she wants to? As in, “because it’s her body and she can do whatever she wants with it”?
HELLO SIR RANDOM INTERNET USER SIR
I AM HERE TO GIVE YOU MY DAILY CLOTHING JUSTIFICATION REPORT
AS WE ALL KNOW WE ALL HAVE TO JUSTIFY OUR CLOTHING CHOICES TO YOU SIR
Reasons and justifications are different, and largely unrelated.
Nobody was talking about justifying anything, just the reason.
I never actually asked for a reason. I only pointed out that ability isn’t a reason.
You might find more productive meaningful exchanges, when you engage with actual people rather than your own straw men.
But maybe meaningful dialogue isn’t important to you. In which case I have nothing more to say.
“I didn’t say that I needed a reason I just complained that ability isn’t a reason so basically I said fuck all”
You just seem to be mad that people are taking your idiotic contrarianism to it’s logical conclusion.
You might find more productive meaningful exchanges, when you stand by what you’re saying instead of crying.
I really hope we’ll see her again some time.
I read a Twitter post of hers a few years ago where she was extremely apologetic towards China, saying that Americans listened to a lot of propaganda and so on. Now I’m starting to wonder if it was really her who made that twitter post.
Nah that sounds like her
I’ve been aware of her for a long time, even before she started looking like a freak and she was always a pro-China shitheap who’d shit on the west.
Good riddance frankly. Let her enjoy her better country.
Wow, what a disgusting asshole you are. Though, what do you expect from an Australian.
You support authoritarians, I don’t support you. It’s that simple. She made her choice years ago, now she can live with the consequences.
I never said I support China, but I also don’t blame a lesbian dating a minority woman from a group who is actively being ethnically cleansed by the Chinese government for doing what she has to do to survive. She’s been blackbagged multiple times over the years and the government watches what she says very closely. And I also don’t blame her for opposing Westerners who apparently often just tried to use her as a tool to support whatever narrative they were trying to spin at the time and then criticize her for bringing up issues she faced that didn’t support their narrative.
That would be like me saying that you made your choice when you decided to live in a country founded by a British prison colony, and now you can live with the consequences. Which is where I was sarcastically going originally, but I think the comparison would’ve been lost on you.
Not you you, you as in her (or anyone else who would). And I’ve known of her from when her works first popped up on HackADay, before China was clamping down on Uyghurs, before she went into the extreme body modding, etc. I’ve disliked her longer than the majority of you known she even existed.
But hey make it racist, keep talking about westerners and what not. Show your real colours.
I made it racist because you bodyshamed her, called her a freak, and then said she deserves to be silenced, kidnapped, possibly killed along with her girlfriend, and whatever other horrible things the Chinese government can come up with. All because you don’t like her. I fail to see the difference between racism and what you said. Which was my point in going that route.
I’m a trans woman in the US. My life expectancy is 30 years due to suicide rates and how commonly we end up murdered. My colors are supporting minorities against oppression, regardless of whether or not I like them or agree with them.
You fail to see a difference between hating someone for being born vs hating someone for supporting genocidal regimes?
We now understand the inherent value of a social media platform. We have yet to figure out how to build a space that doesn’t hand control over to a private entity that only has profit in mind.
Sorry, we can’t yet place the blame solely on the billionaires who own the platforms. We have to create safe heavens away from moneyed interests than protect and maintain them.
- I agree Naomi Wu is a force for good
- Elon Musk sucks
- This article does not actually establish any meaningful blame for Elon Musk in Naomi Wu’s plight.
Sorry, yes Elon Musk is the reason Twitter is shitting itself to death, but that doesn’t make Elon the main person responsible for Naomi’s problems. It’s probably not even top 10. It’s weird to call him out in this.
If you can’t understand the article: musk is blamed for making twitter shit and abandoned. Wu was on twitter, and she said it was a platform where she could be seen and supported, and this audience was protecting her, because a famous person would not disappear without it making noise.
It is an indirect responsibility, but a big one nonetheless.
Wu’s activity on Twitter declined well before Musk took over ownership.
It’s interesting to think that if Wu had more love in the West that the Chinese authorities would have been more slow to crackdown on her…
I think we all remember back in 2017 or so when the Hong Kong protests were at the forefront of everyone’s mind and, still, the crackdown continued, and the resistance was crushed.
And what has China’s response to the popularity of the Ukraine war been? To question its generally positive relations with Russia? No, not at all. China shores up its own front against Taiwan and its trade with Russia is growing exponentially. BRICS gets stronger.
China will not bow to popular Western opinion no matter what. Blaming Musk for this is pretty asinine.
I read the whole thing and then saw that she’s continuing to prop up the same platform and same platform model she blames. Make it make sense.
Iirc MakerMuse mentioned her disappearance in a video quite a while ago. I don’t understand the article well, has she resurfaced silenced or is she still missing?
Wasn’t a great fan of Naomi’s outfits but she made great videos. With the Amber B1 robot arm she was the only one calling out the kickstarter company was a bit sketchy and not just blind advertising it.
