deeper-sadness

  • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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    1523 months ago

    A fucking McDonald’s employee? How cucked can you be to work at McDonald’s and call the police on this hero?

  • buh [she/her]OP
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    fwiw people on libsky are saying it might not be him since it doesn’t make sense for him to still have the weapon 5 days after the shooting, which I kind of agree with (though he may have been holding onto it to get rid of it in a more secure way)

  • Hohsia [any]
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    1023 months ago

    The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonald’s in Altoona after an employee thought he looked like the man in New York Police Department photos and called police

    Hope the snitch gets what’s coming to them

  • TheDoctor [they/them]
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    973 months ago

    The man also had a two-page document railing against the health care industry and suggesting violence is the answer, a police official who has seen the document told CNN.

    Chat, we might get a manifesto

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      Why would you even flee if you were going to carry a manifesto that is basically a confession around for a week. Lends credence to the framed by cops theory tbh.

      • miz [any, any]
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        173 months ago

        why would he be carrying the same goddamn fake ID he checked into the hostel with

        that should’ve been burned as soon as he was in a private place

        • Muad'Dibber
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          53 months ago

          Probably because all this is planted / fabricated. They were getting embarrassed about not catching anybody for a week, and found a patsy.

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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      683 months ago

      Yeah this section stuck out to me.

      What do you mean exactly, police, that he “had a document”?

      Like he had it written out in paper form and was carrying it around with him? Like he wrote it online and published it? Like it is saved on his desktop? If it’s the latter, how did you find it?

    • miz [any, any]
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      3 months ago

      I can believe they’d pick a guy who looks close enough and plant a suppressor and a fake ID, but you’d figure the plan would involve killing him in the process

      • ihaveibs [he/him]
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        323 months ago

        I’m not putting anything past the ruling class, they are increasingly desperate

        • miz [any, any]
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          303 months ago

          if he dies before having a chance to make public statements, then maybe this really is a setup and the manifesto may be invented as well to recover control of the narrative

      • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]
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        the really interesting thing to me is the handwritten note. does the handwriting match? seems relatively conclusive to test, even if he dies first. also, the fact that it wasn’t the NYPD that arrested him

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          match what, the engraving on the rounds/casings? oh, his previous samples of handwriting. sorry I’m not very bright

    • Comrade_Mushroom [comrade/them]
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      263 months ago

      There is like no chance this is the dude who did it. They just have to pin it on someone to try to prevent cool shit like this from continuing to happen.

  • TheDoctor [they/them]
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    803 months ago

    The weapon is a ghost gun – an untraceable, homemade weapon – another law enforcement source told CNN.

    the-doohickey truthers vindicated???

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    703 months ago

    I mean, let’s be honest, it’s Western Pennsylvania

    I’m honestly surprised there aren’t more people being arrested with fake ID’s and suppressors on hand

    • spectre [he/him]
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      613 months ago

      I know greyhound is a fuck but I thought he’d be a little farther away after 5 days than Pennsylvania

        • spectre [he/him]
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          213 months ago

          true. I’m just thinking that it’s possible that he wasn’t as on top of things as his initial escape led us to believe. hard to say quite yet, but this is some incredible foolishness right now.

          dark horse third option: someone was just like “ok call the tip in bro, let’s waste their time for another couple days until they figure out that I framed myself” lol. Probably not tho.

          • miz [any, any]
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            omg that would be incredible direct action

            sympathetic third party actor gets released from jail on Friday, obtains a bunch of stuff to incriminate himself, then gets himself arrested. it takes cops two days to figure out that he was in jail during the murder and our sympathetic actor walks

            jail is just a substitute plot device here for any incontrovertible alibi that you are certain can get you off

            • @alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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              63 months ago

              They claim the guy took a greyhound into the city so unless his alibi was in NYC, it’s probably not that

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    L. probably wanted to Adjust somebody else , otherwise why not ditch the IDs, gun and suppressor as soon as was convenient. dude got greedy, shoulda taken a flight abroad and chilled at least for a while

    UNLESS this is made up by the pigs which is very possible

    Death to America

  • Dessa [she/her]
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    All this about how terrible Mangione’s politics are is exactly WHY they wanted to catch him. It’s not about punishing that guy. It’s about giving a face to a upswell of class solidarity with the hope of alienating people.

    The more we focus on the perp, the less we focus on the deed and the good it did, the more the working class falls into bickering about what kind of person he was.

    I don’t care about the guy. I wanna know about the snitch. They know which McDonald’s it was. Who snitched?

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      183 months ago

      Yea I’m not too worried about how the guy labels himself he wrote a review of the unabombers manifesto and talked about how peaceful protest will always be ignored and violence against billionaires was self defense for what they were doing to us and the planet.

    • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
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      123 months ago

      We see this kind of violence as political, we understand healthcare to be political. He likely doesn’t/didn’t see his bad political takes on twitter as related to killing that guy in any way.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    593 months ago

    Man being questioned is identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione published at 11:43

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/crk0ep61p2mt?post=asset%3Acea5213a-550e-420e-990d-46479ea87642#post

    The man being questioned by police in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, police city commissioner of New York City, Jessica Tisch says.

    Mangione was reportedly found with an ID that had his name on it, along with a fake ID. He was detained at a McDonald’s on Monday morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

    He has not been charged in connection with the shooting.

    This seems to be his twitter: https://xcancel.com/pepmangione

    The smile definitely looks the same. I’ve been googling the guy and he was valedictorian of his high school class. No visible ideological leaning from the twitter account which has a history going back to 2022.

    • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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      I see that he has a spinal fusion located on his lumbar back on his twitter account banner. Yeah, going through that in your teens or 20s will make you hate the healthcare insurance industry… Don’t ask how I know that. Or do actually, I’m prepared to talk about such.

        • EstraDoll [she/her]
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          303 months ago

          no, when there’s a national manhunt after me, i want them to find my find my hexbear account and think “damn this girl funny and has good takes and posts a good hamster”

          • miz [any, any]
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            83 months ago

            liz-society if you do adventurism we disavow

            ypg-brace but if you do

            liz-society don’t

            ypg-brace but IF you do…

            liz-society we disavow and you’re not a real poster on hexbear, just a lurker.

            ypg-brace so don’t do it. But if you do…

            liz-society we disavow

            spoiler

            thank you ChestRockwell for this amazing emoji rendering of TrueAnon Ep 406

        • LaughingLion [any, any]
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          83 months ago

          if i ever get busted for something i deliberately want people to see my goodreads reviews of trashy fantasy and ultra-smut

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      3 months ago

      no ideological leaning but someone who is skimming dark enlightenment transhuman/AI adjacent bullshit.

      fuck he’s fash isn’t he fuck fuck

      (maybe not. sorry im going through some things reading his twitter. dude is a mess. god americans wtf. it’s like some combo of dark enlightenment and anti-capitalist with a side of eco lib)

      • Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them]
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        533 months ago

        Yeah, it looks like he is atleast not our kinda guy. Theres antifeminist shit and wanking about Rome in there. Fuck this shit, fuck this country.

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        333 months ago

        I picked up on the Futurology Guy stuff, the AI fetishism, and the light references to Malthusian overpopulation shit. He strikes me as a vaguely right-wing libertarian, but I didn’t see enough from that 5 minute glance at his twitter to really classify him or say how far into that pipeline he is.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        203 months ago

        fuck he’s fash isn’t he fuck fuck

        I don’t think so but seems like he’s at least halfway there with all the chud bazinga elon shit he’s reposting.

        • Hohsia [any]
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          293 months ago

          Looks like this site has entered the box ticking phase of leftism to “claim” people

          Extremely nauseating, childish and unproductive. Wait until you learn about what actual war entails! Sometimes it’s briefly siding with people you have ideological disagreements with against a common enemy

          • space_comrade [he/him]
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            Yeah people do that a lot here. I remember people being disappointed in Greta because she said some lib shit a month after mentioning the word “imperialism” once. I don’t think people really get how much of an extreme minority their political position is.

            Most people don’t really think about and deliberately form their ideology as much as we do here, they just absorb disparate ideas based on their life circumstances and what kind of propaganda they’re exposed to. Even if you can coax a leftist viewpoint out of most people here and there doesn’t mean they’re anywhere close to you ideologically.

              • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                it’s more just whiplash. i think if he was just a baseline activist lib or apolitical party guy or even just an actual libertarian live-and-let live guy it wouldn’t be as bad

                nobody was expecting a marxist leninist or ancom.

          • quarrk [he/him]
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            43 months ago

            Nah this guy just has an extremely common hatred of healthcare CEOs which transcends political boundaries. Nothing from his Twitter screams leftist. Liking Atlas Shrugged and Ted Kaczynski is right-libertarian shit

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      He retweeted some China fearmongering blog post, so probably not left leaning. Seems like typical computer science stem type

      Also accusing Richard Dawkins of being woke or something:

    • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]
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      it doesn’t mean much that the smile looks the same, the snitch called specifically because he thought he looked the same. if anything it makes it less likely, because it was really unlikely for those smile pictures to be of the right guy, he wouldn’t have been walking around wearing the same outfit but slightly different the next day

      also he’s posting about investment opportunities…?

      i really get the feeling this was going to be a copycat with a different ideology

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        god i hope so. i mean there’s not one post about healthcare and nothing indicating this guy is anything but a full on capitalist bootlicker “free thinker” christian anti-DEI incel

        kind of guy to do a mass shooting or “targeted” killings of women not this

        • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]
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          183 months ago

          part of my reasoning is he didn’t say the manifesto was specifically about the healthcare industry, but “some ill will toward corporate america”. that could mean a million different things, like it could be anti-DEI even. the shooter specifically linked back to a book that was specifically about the healthcare industry.

          • Hermes [none/use name]
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            233 months ago

            the DDD bullets really make me think someone with this guys background is unlikely. Also, if he was an anti-DEI guy, why would he kill an old white CEO?

          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            yep it’s going to be woke CCP agents are destroying our pure American capitalism and healthcare industry and he killed the CEO because the AI he deployed sucked and dude thinks he could have written a better one or some shit

      • miz [any, any]
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        163 months ago

        the copycat idea fits a lot of inconsistencies here, but the resemblance is pretty strong. I don’t know what to think rn

        • gueybana [any]
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          223 months ago

          It’s too strong a coincidence that the picture of the smiling suspect who everyone though was not the real killer also happens to be a copycat. Maybe the cops circulated that picture after finding a guy to pin this on but I dunno, just seems too elaborate for the NYPD.

          The delay, deny, depose engravings don’t seem like they’d be written by someone with this dude’s ideology but shrug-outta-hecks

          • miz [any, any]
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            113 months ago

            well I’d imagine they immediately churned the image they had through every facial recognition program they could across their whole database of ID photographs etc, so finding a similar-looking patsy is not the biggest hurdle

            • gueybana [any]
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              123 months ago

              And then plant this guy in a western Pen McDonalds with a suppressor and multiple IDs?

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                You say that as if you think the pigs wouldn’t or couldn’t fabricate that evidence. Only thing I believe for certain at this point is they found him at McD’s in Altoona

              • CrawlMarks [he/him]
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                43 months ago

                This doesn’t necessarily strike me as a weird load out here in America. I am thinking there area few guys like that in every city. Just vibin

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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            23 months ago

            I think that picture went out too soon for it to be a situation where the detectives had already concluded the case was unsolvable and they need to go find a warm body to throw in prison to save face.

    • Goblin [any]
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      283 months ago

      At least he has good taste in pokemon, breloom is pretty cool. Dudes got those worms in him for sure lmao

    • quarrk [he/him]
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      123 months ago

      Seems like he is at least familiar with Pennsylvania. Studied at UPenn in Philly.

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    Rip to a real one.

    I wonder if any American normies will stop to consider why this particular killing became a manhunt across half the nation within days, when similar crimes happen all across America every day without such efforts.

    See also: the guy they name drop in the article who was on the run from terror charges for seven years for releasing animals from a fur farm.