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Ya know…as much as I hated Bush in his day, he was never a nazi. I called him a LOT of things over the years…but I never remember calling him a nazi.
How the fuck are we living in a timeline where a president who used a terrorist attack as justification for invading countries that never had anything to do with it, is now looked at as “he wasn’t so bad…”
Bush is a war criminal, lied to the American people, and contributed to the pathway that created trumpism.
He’s not a Nazi. But he’s not a good guy either.
His grandpa was though.
https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfather-helped-hitlers-rise-to-power
And his dad HW ran the CIA for a while.
Pardoned a good number of Iran Contra CIA people when he was President.
… And seems to have been working for or with the CIA for many years before he became director.
https://www.salon.com/2019/01/25/the-real-reason-the-cia-loved-george-h-w-bush_partner/
Zapata Oil was run by HW Bush… and very much seems to have been a CIA front company, assisting with many ‘kinetic’ operations in Cuba and Latin America.
… And if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, a whole bunch of people connected to Watergate, the Bay of Pigs… and JFK’s assasination… are also linked to Zapata Oil…
… and HW himself was noted by J Edgar Hoover as working for the CIA, in 1963, way before HW ever admitted he worked for/with the CIA, in an official FBI memo investigating the assasination.
https://headlineusa.com/records-implicate-george-h-w-bush-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/11/us/63-fbi-memo-ties-bush-to-intelligence-agency.html
Yeah, the preceding years laundering his reputation and presidency has been maddening. His war crimes, foreign policy on essentially everything, domestic policy on education, carceral systems, tax reform, and the border should have him in solitary at The Hague for the rest of his life. The man is truly a monster, and walks among the nazis today. He’s still a republican, so whether or not he’s a nazi is perhaps an academic debate only.
He was a fascist. He was always a fascist and his “War on Terror” laid the ground work for our current situation.
His presidency is when I first saw the Signs of Fascism.
Yup, it’s when patriots and flags on cars took a nasty turn. Let’s not forget about Dock Cheney either. O matter what his daughter has tried to do to change that name, Bush and Dick belong in the Hauge.
Trump belongs in an orange jumpsuit and Musk belongs in South Africa, locked in a compound hiding from the world.
Third
Man, that one was so much worse than I remembered. I thought it was just part of a wider gesture, but that heil and the wave that came afterward are clearly two different emotes
The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
My dearly departed gramps would agree. Man was on the ground walking across France and Germany on a mission to free concentration camps. He wouldn’t describe it in any further detail than that, ever, but he would shut down any murmur of racism. Silence a room shut down.
We lack that now which is why hx is coming back around again.
It’s so sad that we are going to get this costly lesson again. It would be better if the guillotines came out, rather than panzer tanks.
I think it’s interesting* that as soon as everyone with a firsthand account of Nazis dies, Nazism comes roaring back. It’s as though there’s no generational memory in society.
*not to imply it’s good, it’s horrifying.
Second?
The first and second happened on the same stage within 5 second of each other
And that was hardly the first…
This was a nazi salute, or at least a reference to it, you can obviously see it. However, and this is where it becomes slightly problematic…
Is it enough of a nazi salute to not work in their favor? We can easily compare Elons salute with a nazi one, just show it side by side with an actual one. But this one is obviously (you can see it on his face) meant to reference it, but it is not as explicit. The problem is that when it is called out, it is just another case of “the woke left screaming that everyone that disagrees with them is a nazi”.
I have no idea how we should handle shit like this.
I’m usually not a fan of zero tolerance policies, but I make an exception for Nazi shit.
It was enough of a Nazi salute for the head of France’s far-right party, who are Nazis, to cancel his planned speech.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/21/steve-bannon-jordan-bardella-nazi-salute-cpac
