• QuizzaciousOtter
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      424 days ago

      He has told people that they should kill themself. I’m not trying to throw a shade on him but that’s the unfortunate truth.

      • Phoenixz
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        024 days ago

        Context matters

        Its a very blunt statement but also the way certain people talk. I honestly don’t think Torvalds wants the entire opensuse team tomkill themselves

        He didn’t say “hey, <insert name here> go kill yourself”.

        He said that if you’re a dev and think its normal to require root password for changing time or connecting to a network, then please kill yourself.

        It’s more than anything an expression of frustration in which I recognize myself. I have to deal with a provider from which I won’t be able to leave for at least another year, which is extremely expensive and extremely incompetent, causing me literally days of work and I have wished in more than one occasion that they would all die in a fire because it’s all incompetent managers who don’t do the work they cause all the shit.

        When he talks to someone directly, he’ll know, right, Mauro?

        • QuizzaciousOtter
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          I really don’t think context changes a lot in this case. Being frustrated doesn’t make statements like this acceptable. Neither does starting the sentence with “if” or being right (which he was).

          Believe me, my intention is not to attack or discredit Linus. As a SE and Linux enthusiast I have a great deal of respect for him. But this is not exclusive with acknowledging that he is just a human and has flaws like all of us.

          I brought this up to show that it’s more complicated than just being “really nice but very honest”, that’s all.

        • KubeRoot
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          023 days ago

          Context doesn’t matter because ultimately it’s directed at somebody and telling them to kill themselves. I don’t think he actually wanted that to happen, but he said it. It doesn’t make him a villain, but it’s something that shouldn’t happen.

          • @throwback3090@lemmy.nz
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            123 days ago

            Why? Are you concerned that the date/time widget author is going to kill themselves? Or do you just not like the concept and don’t think people should talk about it? Something else?

            One of those options is unlikely and the other is just a taboo.

    • unknown1234_5
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      225 days ago

      yeah how dare they want to develop in the same way that everyone else does

      • macniel
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        025 days ago

        they should have been a bit more respectful to the C maintainers and devs, as they were the newcomers.

        • unknown1234_5
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          125 days ago

          being new does not mean you do not have the right to develop the same way everybody else is. they did not start these issues, there were C people causing issues for no reason other than not liking rust that started it.

          • @CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee
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            023 days ago

            Have you actually read the reasoning behind the anti-rust? it has absolutely nothing to do with it being rust. They would have just as many issues with it if it was Go instead.

            • unknown1234_5
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              121 days ago

              I have seen the reasoning they are actually presenting, and it is just various versions of “but I don’t want this to be here” even though they have the option of not interacting with it. nobody is forcing maintainers to support rust code in the thing they maintain, they just can’t prevent rust code from interfacing with it. their arguments are based purely on not wanting to interact with rust but they don’t have to, so they are wrong to block it.

    • LenaOP
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      125 days ago

      Aw hell naw, torvalds supports rust in the kernel and the hate against it is just not based on reality

      • macniel
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        025 days ago

        Sure he allows rust now in the kernel.org but I thought you were referring to the drama around Hector Martin.

        • KubeRoot
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          123 days ago

          The drama where he ended up ripping into the maintainer who’s trying to block rust code from being added? :P