• @Cocopanda@futurology.today
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    22 days ago

    Lost my 20 year old FB account. Because I responded to a blatant “The South Will Rise Again” terror post by a bot. I as a joke said. “Can’t wait to meet you in battle.” and that was enough to ban me there. FB is protecting the hateful bigots that click on the Ai content.

  • @Cocopanda@futurology.today
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    12 days ago

    Lost my 20 year old FB account. Because I responded to a blatant “The South Will Rise Again” terror post by a bot. I as a joke said. “Can’t wait to meet you in battle.” and that was enough to ban me there. FB is protecting the hateful bigots that click on the Ai content.

    • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      25 days ago

      what’s the difference between government censorship, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government where certain phrases are randomly declared punishable by death?

    • @undone@lemm.ee
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      15 days ago

      What does shadow banning typically look like? I would assume you don’t get a notification? How do you find out?

      • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        35 days ago

        you do a thing, but there are no interactions. maybe in only certain contexts. so to you it appears as if you’re engaging, but your posts and sometimes reactions/votes don’t show up except to you.

        • @undone@lemm.ee
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          35 days ago

          haha. seeing as I don’t usually get much interaction I would never notice.

          switched to lemmy as main platform on my phone a few days ago anyway. when boost for reddit finally was blocked completely. will try to be more active here and hope many other people do the same… there is a good chance with all that’s going on.

          • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            25 days ago

            yeah I probably wouldn’t notice if everyone else in town was replaced by robots tomorrow until I went and tried to feed randos and found they didn’t eat anymore.

      • Crazazy [hey hi! :D]
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        How do you find out?

        I assume looking at reddit through an incognito window and seeing none of your posts appearing

        • @undone@lemm.ee
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          15 days ago

          Hmm. Will try it some time. Sometimes it feels like being shadow-banned… but TBH it’s more likely just not so active communities / mediocre contribution on my part.

  • @Billybob22@feddit.uk
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    376 days ago

    Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.

    It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.

    • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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      257 days ago

      It’s fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.

      The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.

      Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don’t compete for jobs we can’t do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the “libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US” is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.

    • Phoenixz
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      106 days ago

      Tech fascists see America’s democracy and financial system as collapsing.

      That’s because you’re the one breaking it down

  • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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    366 days ago

    Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.

    • @psud@aussie.zone
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      12 days ago

      I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold “communication with their sibling/child” over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account

      The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I’m deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)

      • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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        12 days ago

        My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.

        We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn’t have a phone number.

        I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it’s just very confused. It’s good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know…

        • @psud@aussie.zone
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          12 days ago

          I thought I heard recently about signal allowing a different ID system, but I think that’s about not having to share your phone number, as against them IDing you with a phone number which I expect they will keep doing

          • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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            12 days ago

            signal allowing a different ID system

            It used to surface your number to all your contacts, now they only see your handle.

            Still have to use a phone number to sign up.

      • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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        26 days ago

        Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum

        There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.

    • @Pax@lemmy.ca
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      86 days ago

      Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.

      • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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        I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.

        They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.

        If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such

        The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.

    • @Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      66 days ago

      Yeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.

      • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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        66 days ago

        WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.

  • @segabased@lemmy.zip
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    947 days ago

    This man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained

    • @Benjaben@lemmy.world
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      That’s not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There’s a ton of reporting on it. They’re gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.

      Edit: added a detail

      • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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        67 days ago

        If you had billions, wouldn’t you have a prepper facility? Even if there were no global warming or political upheaval, it’s common sense when you have money like that.

        “Hey, want to build a doomsday shelter for .0001% of your net worth?”

        “Meh, why not.”

        They don’t necessarily have to see bad times coming is my point.

        • @astutemural@midwest.social
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          327 days ago

          No? If I ACTUALLY wanted to ride out through some sort of apocalypse, a bunker ain’t gonna cut it. I would bankroll and actively participate in a fully self-sustaining off-the-grid community. Rich people always forget the second part, probably because they are psychopaths. Remember that article where they were asking about putting shock collars on their bunker security guys? If they literally just got beers with them once a week, they’d probably shoot all the migrants you ask them to. It’s an irony that they consider their time ‘too valuable’ for that, as it turns out that the one thing you can’t buy is a sense of community.

          Of course, I would endeavor to not own several billion dollars of stolen property in the first place, but different strokes.

        • @HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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          67 days ago

          You are correct, but also when you look at the aggregate of their behavior and goals (both stated and implied) you have to reach the conclusion that they WANT to use the bunker. Or want a scenario in which it becomes useful.

          • @bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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            26 days ago

            The scary part is that you might be wrong, they may not even realize they’re causing it and are just stuck in a loop of “number go up”

            • @faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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              16 days ago

              Yeah, I feel like most of them are stuck in ‘number go up’, but I also think that the desire to make your investment ‘worth it’ gets stronger the more money you pour into a bunker system.

  • @Alloi@lemmy.world
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    166 days ago

    any terminally ill people down to go down in history as a fucking chad with a rifle or a drone?? anyone??

    • @tree_frog@lemm.ee
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      We’re all terminally ill on a long enough timeline.

      So… Was that an offer to be our chad?

      • @Alloi@lemmy.world
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        45 days ago

        im canadian, i wouldnt want to cause ww3 by assassinating a foreign leader.

        Sorry Americans, this is your mess, you gotta clean it up this time :/

        • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          cause world war 3

          dude, if a canadian assassinated any american leaders, I’d just think more highly of canadians.

          plus, they’re gonna invade you at some point anyway.

          not that it should be your responsibility. the travel costs alone; oof. there are people who walk by these bastards every day.

    • @psud@aussie.zone
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      12 days ago

      My friends have been describing America now as cyberpunk without the cybernetics. We have no neuromancers

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      86 days ago

      Basically. I mean there’s a bit more to it than that but it’s the core idea. It’s also the goal of several tech oligarchs which is why he doesn’t want the peons to be able to talk about it.

      • @tree_frog@lemm.ee
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        The term cyberpunk was first used to describe settings such as Snowcrash, i.e. dystopian corporate sci-fi, before it was adopted as a name for the gaming franchise.

        I’m not sure if the person you are replying to was using it as a noun or an adjective, I parsed it is an adjective because it’s more inclusive.

        Anyway… using cyberpunk to refer to the game franchise, would be a disambiguation. This is the article referring to the original usage.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk?wprov=sfla1

        • @Vopyr@lemmy.world
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          35 days ago

          I was referring to cyberpunk as a genre and theme, I remembered some things after reading this post like shadowrun, cyberpunk ttrpg, Gibson’s books, system shock, etc.

          • @tree_frog@lemm.ee
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            Yeah, I just tend to think of that stuff as corporate feudalism. And I learned that concept from playing shadowrun as a kid and then getting into other cyberpunk stuff.

            And yeah, it seems to be the direction we are headed. Elon musk is a fan of blade runner and I don’t think he identifies with the poor people but the rich CEO.

        • @xorollo@leminal.space
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          25 days ago

          Yep, I just want more people to read the book because I like it. Cyberpunk the game rocks, Snowcrash rocks.

    • @Silk@lemm.ee
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      45 days ago

      I’m reading the Sprawl trilogy along with Shelved By Genre, and Gibson harps on the note that ‘the Ultra Rich aren’t human’, and has some great examples in the books.

      I think he was very observant, and Musk makes it so blatant.

    • @ansiz@lemmy.world
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      86 days ago

      Really I’d wager it’s more Snow Crash myself, it’s a book that most of these Silicon Valley guys would have grown up with.

      • @faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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        76 days ago

        Cyberpunk 2077 was just a continuation of Cyberpunk 2020, which came out before Snow Crash.

        In reality, I think the tech bros pull from all sorts of media and don’t restrict themselves to just one bible.

        • @ansiz@lemmy.world
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          56 days ago

          That’s a good point. Snow Crash does lean heavily into the metaverse in a way that is very aligned with Zuckerberg’s concept of it. I remember early interviews with some silicon valley guys and when Stephenson was the darling out there l, like with the early Xbox guys or Google Earth.

          Maybe Cyberpunk was popular too but just didn’t break through to more mainstream news.

  • @KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    317 days ago

    I had never heard about the “Network State” concept before, but now I hate it, because Zuckerberg sure as hell loves it