They talk about “the left” as though there’s any kind of leadership or organization or solidarity.
Motherfucker, people just don’t like you, all on their own, because of who you are.
People can not actually grasp so many people existing. We were never meant to live in such large societies, historically, we only had a tribe that consists of maximum ~150 people.
It has been scientifically proven that we can’t hold effective social relations to a larger number of people. The exact limit is not clear afaik, but what this essentially means, in a community of millions, we abstract away groups of people into “the left”, “the bourgeoisie”, “the poor” which allows our brain to form social relations to these groups of people with the limited capacity it has, essentially treating each group as a single person.
Now of course, this abstraction is entirely inadequate, as each collection of people is always much more diverse than the abstract concept we use to replace them, and they aren’t really single individuals, they don’t act with a collective mind.
But most people do not understand this. They just work with these abstractions, these groups of people, as if they were real single people, because in some manner, it does work. If the abstraction actually groups correctly, then the ability to reason like this works decently well. But everyone is always wrong about these abstractions. They are always too general. They always fail to consider that there’s not a single mind at work.
It’s such an easy mistake to make. I see smarter people than Musk do it all the time. The enemy, like always, is missing knowledge, missing humility, missing self-awareness, unreasonable confidence, fear of the unknown/being wrong. All of which Musk falls into.
I don’t see any solution but to educate about this whenever possible. To speak to people about it. To raise the education about stuff like this wherever, whenever we can. I’m trying to do my part.
Good ted talk, but it could be boiled down to how many millions is a billion to blow most people’s minds. And even if you know it’s a 1000 million, our minds just can’t grasp that.
Things can always be boiled down. But the more you boil it down, the more previous knowledge you assume people have in common, and it might happen that they don’t understand because they didn’t have knowledge you assume they had.
Conversely, if you include too much information, not boil it down enough, you lose people by being bored of getting told things they already know.
In any case, it’s not an easy balance and I’m just doing my best here to guess which amount of “boiling down” is “just right”. But thanks for your comment, I’ll take it into consideration.
Try 100 billion.
Left is deeply deeply organized, otherwise it wouldn’t be all the lefties controlling every house, chamber, & office in the land
Says the one actually doing a whole nazi salute, buying presidency despite not being able to hold office due to nationality, carving up entire programs and departments in a very incompetent way, and attempting to shamelessly buy a seat in the supreme court.
And that’s not mentioning how I personally believe he may be doing all this due to his God-Iron-Man-Savior complex which makes him believe he’ll be remembered as a modern messiah. Notice how he’s revived his desire to put mankind on Mars, and by next year no less. He knows under current laws he’d at best help pave the way to Mars, but not live to enjoy it himself. “Maybe if I change the whole rulebook - in the end despite the suffering they’ll thank and revere me”, I bet.
Poor Elon. I bet he’s crying right now for being a misjudged angel, drying his tears in green paper.
Says the one actually doing a whole nazi salute
Two whole Nazi salutes.
He is named Elon after a character in a novel by Wernher von Braun. The boy had no chance.
How was Errol Musk aware of the book (in 1970 something) if it was unpublished until 2006 ? (According to the wiki link below) ?
Were they doing nazi catch ups with Von Braun in the 60s or something ?
Maybe because of the excerpts that were published in the 1950s?
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And by “push negative propaganda”, you mean use direct quotes and actual video of you.
Fake Nazi stuff.
So the inauguration Hitler salute was AI generated or what?
No, it was real. He is complaining that the left is misrepresenting him by claiming that the Nazi stuff was fake, OBVIOUSLY!
He’s admitting that he’s a fraud, a fake, a phony.
He obviously just greeted everyone enthusiastically.
It obviously meant “my heart goes out to you”
/s
Fake nazi stuff?
Yeah, because supporting and claiming the AFD is Germany’s only hope (Germany’s Nazi Party, which is not called Nazi Party because that would be illegal in Germany) is exactly what a none Nazi would do!
Positive?
Anything?
i was confused as well, i only know the real nazi stuff
As a trans woman, I’m only giving back what he’s been dishing out to me - except that when we talk about him, we’re actually telling the truth.
On that note, Elon is a whiny nazi pissbaby.
If you were truly telling the actual truth you would need to include at least 4 more negative adjectives in describing Elon.
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And that’s why you’d never be the richest person. Think about the qualities that lead one to become the richest person on earth. Really think about what that title represents. It’s an unfathomable amount of wealth. Any sane, compassionate person would have funneled that into charity work and the well-being of others.
You see what I’m getting at?
Or they’d invest, retiring while traveling and living off the dividends. It’s a sickness.
If you’re rich you can both invest, retire, travel, live off dividends AND donate your money and support the well being of others.
You can do that with like, 10 million usd or even less (1% yearly interest means 100k usd a year), and still have money left over to donate
Musk has about 30 000x that
Nah, that’s bullshit. You’re no fucking saint. The problem with billionaires is you cant possibly live a normal life once you get there. That kind of power corrupts your thoughts, actions, and importantly the way every single person you ever interact with behaves.
If you become a billionaire I’m coming for you.
The thing is… slashing welfare, trying to erase trans people, hoarding billions in government subsidies are positive things in his book.
So… we’re helping him by taking about it? That just feels wrong.
No, he simply can’t wrap his head around what’s going on
I’m very curious to see how all this whining plays with his fan boys. Doesn’t seem very based or chad or whatever the fucking incel children are saying these days.
They’re really going to be upset when their moms lose their social security and get foreclosed on rendering them basement less
Upset, but unwilling to regret their vote admit their part in their moms losing their livelihood or home.
Dude literally posts his stupid thoughts on his own platform. No one is making that shit up and making him type it out. What a dolt.
He won’t even apologize for it but instead doubles down. Maybe we should double down on this, too.
Sounds like he wants some… Empathy?
List of positive things that he’s done:
Honestly: Being a massive, public spokesperson for electric vehicles that had a huge following with the well-off nerds brought us where we are today with electric cars, I’m still convinced about that. But yeah, that’s about the only thing I can think of.
I don’t care how positive the apparent outcome; I simply cannot agree with giving somebody credit for propaganda. Because essentially, that’s what you’re talking about.
We don’t need confidence men like Musk or Trump. They have nothing but their own interests in mind. So he accidentally had a small positive influence? Big deal. If he hadn’t spoken up, another would’ve taken his place.
He deserves no credit, just as he deserves no sympathy.
That sounds very black and white. With age I’ve come to the conclusion that black and white thinking while very satisfying has never led to anything good in my life. I avoid it where possible. It’s a bit harder and it can bring me into situations where I don’t feel the righteous vigor of being on the correct side, but I find that I’ve ruined more with that vigor than what I’ve fixed taking a detail oriented approach.
I do not see any benefit on looking for the illusory middle ground in this case.
It all comes back to the paradox of intolerance I think. If you fail to see an overwhelming every such as fascism in very strict black and white terms, you are not only putting yourself in harms way, you are actively allowing others to come Uber fire as well.
Yes. I approach the issue of Nazi shit stains like Musk in a very black and white perspective. And you should to. In fact, given the context, I find your response honestly deplorable. Even if we forget about Musk and focus on the propaganda issue, your response opens the door to assisting the spread dangerous misinformation that very realistically can cause actual pain and suffering.
Shame on you.
What’s wrong with propaganda?
Well, in short, by definition it spreads misinformation. Even if a particular propaganda message is technically truthful, by design the message has been alerted to focus on certain things while obscuring others. In other words, it’s not only inherently subjective, but it’s designed to be misinterpreted as objective.
Finally, I do not support any of the common causes or ideas that propaganda is usually intended to reinforce (e.g. patriotism sounds harmless, even positive, but largely is used to encourage bigotry and xenophobia).
What’s wrong with propaganda? Everything.
I take issue with the presence of that bullet. It implies he has the space to have ever done a positive thing.
Oh, no, you see it’s just a placeholder for when he dies.
Nazi says what?
Jokes on you…he’s far too busy doing Nazi salutes at the nearest mirror to say anything.
And yet not once did he apologize for that Nazi salute and explain how horrified he was that he accidentally did it.
wow been a while since this
