Yeah, Nintendo is smoking unfiltered crack, lol. Who the hell has $80-90 to throw at every game in the midst of an unnecessary economic downturn and possible worldwide meltdown?
Oh no, just a USA meltdown. Trump isn’t great for other economies, but we still have the rest of the world to trade with. The only thing he is achieving is making the usa less relevant by the day.
It will still cause other countries economies to shrink, as most economies are interlinked in the modern age; but even with the loss in GDP, removing US trade/tech/military reliance is definitely for the better imo. The USA positioning themselves alongside Russia has woke up the rest of the world to the fact that America isn’t simply arrogant… It’s also dangerous.
I don’t see a way back for the US in all honesty. The problem isn’t the rogue state behaviour, it’s the virile support for such actions seen from many of their citizens. In the coming years we’ll no doubt see American military bases being shutdown across the globe, in retaliation to their animosity, and it will only continue further until the US is a pariah state.
I suppose it’s some solace that the democrats are able to somewhat slow the implosion of the US through the senate, but that won’t be enough to stop them falling out of favour with the rest of the world, and thus losing a huge part of their power. And I have to wonder, is this the exact outcome Putin wanted (America surviving, but struggling… Allowing them to exist as the bad guy, Rather than complete desolation), or just a happy accident after getting Krasnov elected?.
It’s because a significant portion of our population are complete dumbasses.
One third of the country are bigots believing every piece of propaganda.
One third of our country doesn’t think politics affects them.
10-15% (ballparking) have good political intentions, but don’t think voting will solve anything.
That leaves about 20-25% to actually contribute politically with critical thinking skills and understanding various social issues.
Yeah we’re fucked.
Not to mention, Nintendo games usually don’t go down in price over time as much.
As much? I don’t think ever. Breath of the Wild is still it’s release price despite it’s sequel, in the same world but with more content, being out and the same price. They’re insane.
How does one filter crack? I need to know for my pulmonary health.
They sell brillo used by crackheads as filters right next to the crack pipes at gas stations in the hood.
Gotta burn it before inhaleing to test it. Some of that shit is fake and just some steel wool with a coating. Remember to be safe while smoking crack!
I could be wrong, but doesn’t the process of cooking the cocaine into crack kind of “filter” it so to speak?
Not in the slightest. It only cuts it so you can increase your yield at the cost of needing to sell a fundamentally different product.
I think the filter is to stop shards of burning crack from going into your mouth/throat.
Cooking usually refers to removing salts necessary for mucous absorption to make smoked crack more palatable and injected crack not lethal. I haven’t done crack yet.
I get your point, but I’ll probably end up paying that. The exclusives are pricey but I almost always end up playing them for 50-100+ hours each, so I can’t really complain 🤷♂️
This line of thinking is why we are being price gouged to begin with.
“it’s $20 for a skin… Eh I’ll buy it.” I have friends that do that. Meanwhile I almost never buy a game at launch because I’ll just wait for a sale and for the game to be fixed post launch.
The trouble is, Nintendo games don’t even go on sale, so you can’t do that. Nintendo used to be the affordable accessible console. Now they’re the opposite.
I haven’t had a desire to play their games luckily, but the emulators are good. I tried Pokémon Arceus with one and it ran flawlessly. The game was boring as hell from what I played, but I wanted to see how it functioned compared to the older games I know.
Yeah. I was providing context and a small joke in relation to the comment about how we got here. I mostly play Steam games anyway.
A few years ago my wife bought a switch, we occasionally play it, but yes I saw the games were basically never on sale.
At this point in the world I just want to reward one of the few companies that has yet to screw me over. Everything I’ve ever bought from Nintendo still works to this day, and I’m generally expecting it to work forever. No one else is making products like that, it’s all short-term shareholder profits-- who cares about the customer? If you want to pay what garbage is priced at, you’ll get garbage in the end.
Imagine simping for a soulless corporation who doesn’t give of fuck if you exist. How is anything nintendo doing consumer friendly? You’re definitely on that copium, champ.
I’m just speaking from personal experience, friend. I understand someone will probably have a list of like 10 links of counterexamples handy but I can say with fair confidence they probably haven’t affected me. Hell, my original joycons actually still work, though I did buy my Switch a couple years after release. And I’m not simping for anything, I will 100% change my stance the day Nintendo starts screwing me over 🤷♂️
Worldwide? Trump is ruining the US economy only
So fun fact the world’s economies are interlinked and most countries have a ton of money in US banks and stocks.
Oh, my sweet summer child…
Lol another person that thinks he’s smart by being rude. No wonder Lemmy isn’t attracting more people
I’m just pointing out your naïveté. What happens in the US naturally affects the rest of the world. We’re all dependent on each other. No one will be isolated from this.
Like the recession of 2008/2009. It was America that cause it and the whole worked suffered.
Leave Lemmy out of this! It’s innocent!
Point at the doll where you were touched by Lemmy
Remember 2008/2009 recession? This was cause by the USA economy, but affected the entire world.
Even if you think it’s not worldwide, you do realise some countries and regions rely heavily upon trading with the US. And it will cause inflation, though how much depends on what will actually happen now.
As others pointed out, it’s not only the US economy that will be hit, but also everyone that trades with them.
To illustrate some examples, Canadian aluminum might end up with 25% tariffs. That means anything made within the USA that uses said aluminum will get a price increase. Canadian companies might end up with a surplus, since their main customers won’t be buying as much (instead of paying 100 dollars for a tonne, 'mericans will pay 125 dollars per tonne). That surplus will drive prices down if they can’t find someone else to buy the aluminum.
Since the tariffs aren’t only on Canadian aluminum, but a lot of stuff from a lot of countries, some of that stuff will end up with a significant surplus and no new buyers. For smaller countries that rely on USA exports, that’s going to hurt a lot.
The world economy is dependent on countries like the USA.
ROFL you really have no idea how things work huh
Lol
Who the hell is paying 90EUR for switch games?
Nintendo fanboys, they would jump off a cliff if asked.
I consider myself a Nintendo fanboy. I’ve owned every console.
Would not jump off a bridge.
However, these game prices are too high. I don’t think third party games will be that price but first party games will be there.
Something tells me all new AAA games are going to be touching that price. I mean, they already do if you factor in the stupid elite wtf editions and deluxe pro plus editions. Hell, they’re more like $130-$150 after DLC is all said and done.
I crave for the earlier days of the 3DS to happen again, please Nintendo fan base, I have a bit of faith.
Let’s not pretend every publisher isn’t planning on doing this. Nintendo just happens to be the first here.
I genuinely thought GTA6 was gonna beat them to the punch.
All it takes is for a major corporation to pull the trigger. Since Nintendo is willing to take that step, other companies are going to be observing to see if it’s worth the temporary backlash.
I get the MSRP outrage, but I mean it’s not an unusual cost for launch day titles, especially for physical media.
I don’t think I’ve ever paid full retail for any game or console I’ve ever owned though. And I do like to own my games by buying physical media (or at least the installer files).
Which game has been launched at 90 bucks before?
Thing is that they even do this shady thing now where retails is 10 bucks more than the digital version.
Usually because you actually own the retail/physical version but they can rescind access to a digital copy at any point.
But I usually buy old games or new ones second hand, so, I exist on a slightly different market place…
I know my work colleague is not. His Switch was cracked for I think 100+ eur which seems quite high, but since you can afterwards download pretty much any title from some pirate marketplace, that investment has been covered at least tenfold.
Me and millions of others. If you account for inflation, there has been higher prices in the past.
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Being rude for no reason is a bad look
My question was genuine, and not rude at all, absolute majority of people can’t afford to buy $90 game every month, nor should they.
Your question was a good one, but still rude. You’re more likely to get a satisfying answer if you don’t pose the premise that the person you’re replying to must be dumb if they’re not rich.
Because inflation applies to all products equally and there aren’t ever relative adjustments /s
What games currently cost that much though, is my question really, I guess. The last expensive titles I can see right now for standard editions of games is like, 70Eur equivalent for AAA type titles.
Nice to see an adult reaction in this thread. You have a good point and I’m very curious why Nintendo made these choices. Maybe it could have to do with the current value of the Japanese yen? I’m not an economist though, so I’m just guessing right now.
Wild. Possibly market rates are different - don’t know if the EUR is particularly weak right now? I don’t follow the conversion rates…
I mean I own a switch, and I’ve never paid anything close to that for games… I’ve gone to maybe £45-50 for launch titles but what games cost £70?
$90?
Shit.
Metroid Prime 4 and The Duskbloods don’t sound perfect after all
$80 for physical $70 for digital.
Oh wow, I didn’t realize physical manufacturing, storage, transport and sale was only $10!
Oh wow! I can buy a digital game worth the same price as a physical game! What a deal! /s
Other way, I think. 80 for digital, 90 for physical. In USD anyways.
I’ll be waiting for the Tinfoil discount.
“The future is Here!!!”
The fact that Nintendo is well known for not lowering their game prices this could very well price them out from competition.
Hopefully game reviewers will heighten their expectations to meet these inflated prices.
Have you met Nintendo fanboys? They’re going to defend this shit like MAGAt republicans defend their Cheeto coloured Jesus.
Cursed cabbage patch bob ross
Hopefully game reviewers will heighten their expectations to meet these inflated prices.
I find it more likely Nintendo will DMCA them for daring to speak about their games
On the one side, yeah they are over protective of their IPS
On the other, This is Nintendo, not Ubisoft LMAO 🤣
Ubisoft, who literally spends more money on lawyers to sue reviewers and anyone giving their opinion of their latest worst game than in their ACS game 🤣
Can confirm: Super Mario run on iOS is still the same price as it was at launch in 2016.
On the one hand, with rising inflation and skyrocketing development costs, I can totally understand why game prices are getting dangerously close to the triple digits. Games rn are cheaper that they ever were
yeetyet development is not.However, that’s still a lot of money and I really wouldn’t wanna pay that.
The money isn’t going to developers, and these are billion dollar companies. It’s not about development, but unadulterated greed.
Doesn’t change that $60 in 2010 are almost $90 today. Devs/publishers aren’t any more greedy than they were 15 years ago.
Devs/publishers aren’t any more greedy than they were 15 years ago.
Looks at the dozens of live service games that have come out in the past decade, with their multiple currencies and premium battle passes
Touché. But that’s a different problem. They don’t even need to raise the base price though, many of them are free to play anyways. And those that both have microtransactions and are full price should be avoided anyways.
They are not more greedy, but they think they got an opportunity now. Games industry is bigger than Film industry. They earn an amazing amount of money due to how many more are playing games now than in 2010 did. Revenue of 2024 was 10 times higher than of 2010…
The do have an opportunity now. People will complain but they won’t stop buying games.
We will see. If they lose a big share of the Switch 1 owners without many new members buying the console, it is a loss for them.
Is that the same in Japan? I know Japan has a horrible work culture in general.
This is greed, pure and simple. At $60, the industry was more profitable than Hollywood, and they raised the base price of games to $70 just a few years ago before immediately talking about raising prices again.
Not solely. If you paid $60 for a game in 2010, that‘d be almost $88 today, simply due to inflation. It’s a wonder the prices haven’t skyrocketed any sooner.
Not that I want that, I‘d prefer games being affordable but it was kinda inevitable considering the way the economy is going…
Also, I‘d personally rather pay $90 once than have a cheap game with a shitload of micro transactions. Of course, developers/publishers that ask $90 for a game and still include a bunch of micro transactions can fuck right of.
Also, people seem to forget that we’ve been paying $60 for new games for like 40 years. NES games cost $60. That would be like $200 today.
“I rAtHeR pAy $420.69 once for an incomplete game then extra $69 for each DLC” - You. Seriously, go back to Nintendo you gooba
I don’t own a Nintendo console older than a Wii and I don’t plan on changing that.
I also don’t plan on playing games that try to make me pay for it tenfold by enticing me to buy various in-game currencies.
But the sale numbers are probably much higher nowadays, so it would be feasible to sell games for cheaper. But why would they? People are gonna buy them anyway. Those who won’t will get them on a sale later.
Those who won’t will get them on a sale later.
/C/patientgamers represent!
I’ll gladly wait 3-5 years to play a $90 retail game for $10-20. There are already too many games in my library to play, I don’t need to piss away $100 on a game I’ll be bored with in 2 months.
Except Nintendo first party titles never get close to that price.
yeet development is not.
Yeah I would imagine yeeting the things you’re developing could get expensive.
Or do you mean developing new kinds of yeets? Probably still expensive.
Exactly.
don’t forget mods, easy repair, easy piracy, and actually being a functional portable computer in a pinch if you have a docking station
Nuck Findendo. They’re assholes who kick the ladder out from underneath them
You are allowed to swear here. No need to self-censor.
Nintendo isn’t getting another penny from me after what they did to the switch emulation projects.
… what they “momentarily” did to “that” em project, you mean.
I’m always 2-3 years behind on new consoles for this very reason.
You say that like Nintendo ever puts their games on sale
I do the same, but not because of sales, but because it takes 2-3 years for the high seas to swell with jolly rogers.
Used physical copies are usually cheap.
The nintendo switch, released 8 years ago now, was the first console to never have a price drop. PS5 and XBOX series did not need to be convinced to join that particular trend
It had one on the secondary market. 🤟
Couldn’t you just use Yuzu and pirate games - on the steamdeck?
It’s Switch 2 games we’re talking about here…
Switch 2: emulation boogaloo
I genuinely believe a primary driving factor for the switch 2 was to hinder emulation of new releases. I don’t remember any of this but I think my friend said TOTK was available on bad websites a week before the official release. But I wouldn’t know.
Two weeks if I’m not mistaken
The new connection for the controllers also makes me think they didn’t want to take a chance with a fumble like on the switch where you can ground a pin to hack your switch…
Damn. Gotta start emulating that too.
We’ll see how long it takes to get a working emulator going, but with power equivalent to a PS4 Pro it might not happen for a while…
So yeah after a year of a release.
Even the 729$ Legion Go looks like a good deal compared to the Switch 2.
Hell, at least I can use my steam deck as a mini PC and SSH into the thing, as well as use a mouse and full fuckin keyboard with my cheap off brand dock.
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I think expecting Nintendo do allow people to play their games without being customers is bizarre. I want emulator, I want to be able to pirate whatever I want, but I don’t grt expecting Nintendo to be happy about that arrangement
I think expecting Nintendo do allow people to play their games without being customers is bizarre
If they want those customers they can sell their game on a system that can actually handle it
Switch l2
Guess I’m waiting till an emulator comes out. which sadly won’t be for a while since ryujinx was killed.
