you shouldn’t treat animals like smartphones, either. you treat different things differently.

they weren’t things. treating them like things is part of what made that wrong.

and treating animals like people is also wrong.

every human being is actually something and not someone

no, and this makes no sense

it’s slavery. no need to soften it

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the one that talks shit on so-called third parties is basically all conjecture and poorly interpreted academics.

eating meat doesn’t cause people in the meat industry to do anything. they get to choose what they do.

if I died today there is no reason for me to believe any industry would get smaller as a result, and I would of course stop purchasing everything.

there are more vegans now more than ever, and more meat produced. being vegan doesn’t decrease the size of the industry.

not any group. nonhumans.

whether I do or not, the industry continues to grow.

it’s illogical to try to fly a plane like you are driving a car. different things are different and it is correct to treat them so.

people should be treated differently than animals. doing so is necessary for right action. how we treat animals should have no bearing on how we treat each other.

obviously we disagree. i hold them accountable for their actions regardless.

Declaring that humans and chickens are distinct is not sufficient to say to they deserve radically different ethical consideration.

it is. ethics are a social construct developed by humans to help them understand correct action in human society. chickens are only relevant to the extent that it impacts how people relate to one another

You could for instance, use that to say any group of humans are distinct in some way and thus deserve different moral consideration. Be it by gender, skin tone, etc.

comparing women to animals is what misogynists do. comparing other races to animals is what racists do. lets be better than them.

this is storytelling, not evidence. if we can’t agree that meat producers have free will, and i am only responsible for my own actions, we have a fundamental disagreement that won’t be resolved on lemmy. but ask yourself: at what point do meat producers become responsible for tehir own actions?

meat producers are responsible for their own actions. no one else causes them.

i have considered it, and its epistemic issues make it impractical as a basis of deciding correct actions.

nope. I’ve said what I wanted to say.