• sp3ctr4l
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    For those not familiar with DragonFucker/Rider/Drag:

    Dragon uses the pronoun “drag” in place of “I”, “drag’s” in place of “my”.

    They wouldn’t say:

    I like cheese. Blueberry isn’t my favorite. I know what my heart wants.

    They would say:

    Drag likes cheese. Blueberry isn’t drag’s favorite. Drag knows what drag’s heart wants.

    Beyond whether or not they literally think they are a dragon, going to marry a dragon, beyond even using ‘drag’ as a custom neopronoun that normally replaces 3rd person pronouns…

    They are using what they call their own custom first person pronouns, but this reads to basically every English speaker as constantly referring to themselves in the 3rd person by using their own nickname, akin to the royal ‘we’.

    Dragon has told me that they don’t see “drag” as a nickname, but as a pronoun.

    … I don’t think they are trolling, in the sense of just doing something annoying to get a rise out of people, a voluntary activity one choses to do consciously.

    Their grammatical behavior is consistent across all their posts, they don’t only engage in it from time to time.

    I’ve even had a few conversations with Dragon where I’ve attempted to explain that half of the hate they get and arguments they get into stem from people misunderstanding what they are saying, because of their extremely niche way of using pronouns.

    They’ve told me, directly, that my understanding of how their pronouns work is correct, and that this proves that their pronoun/grammar style is thus not confusing, and that eventually everyone will just adapt and understand them.

    …Despite the fact that I told them I had to do like an hour worth of research to figure out how this all actually works, which Dragon … intially chastized me for, saying it was all clearly evident from their profile (it wasn’t), and that I did not need to do that much research…

    …even though I seem to be the only person I am aware of explaining Dragon’s grammar/pronoun style in every thread we both happen to be in where most other people are just misunderstanding them and that leading to arguments.

    Anyway, I’ve never heard of anyone using custom pronouns for “I” and “my” until Dragon.

    Ever.

    I myself am queer, have run in many circles with many lgbtqia folks, and I’ve even dated a queer person legitimately diagnosed with DID, and not even they would use their own custom first person pronouns for their alters, or the collective system of alters as a whole…

    • @Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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      I wonder if their point is basically to stress test the pronouns system we have,
      e.g. make people think about why we use them and why we need them

      basically doing something to an extreme to show the issues/benefits it entails

    • @Kayday@lemmy.world
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      I respect drag’s pronouns. Correct me if I’m wrong, but referring to drag with “they” is not right?

      They wouldn’t say:
      I like cheese.

      They would say:
      Drag likes cheese.

      Not trying to pull a gotcha or anything, it just confuses me because I keep seeing comments defending drag’s pronouns while also using they/them.

    • First of all, thanks for your explanation. That made everything clear. Secondly:

      and I’ve even dated a queer person legitimately diagnosed with DID

      What does DID mean?

    • Annoyed_🦀 A
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      I’ve seen some people refering themselves with their own name, though all of them is online and haven’t met one irl.

      Also if people watch We Bare Bears, Ice Bear always refering himself as “Ice Bear” and never “I”. No one watching the show seems to hate him, however.

      Personally i don’t really care, not sure what’s the fuss around Drag using it tbh.

      Edit: it seems there’s more to this story i’m not aware of after reading all the comment, if that’s the case i might’ve mistaken the situation :/

      Also now i do remember meeting someone that refer to herself in 3rd person.