• @cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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    Yeah. The change in Europe will have to come from Eastern Europe, because the Western Europeans and the Nordics are completely lost in their own arrogance and superiority complex.

    Even though the Eastern Europeans have serious problems with racism and fascism too, you can still see that there is more hope for a real change of course in the likes of Hungary, Slovakia, possibly soon Romania, and maybe even Poland (who, as Atlanticist and Russophobic as they are, still appear to have more of a grip on reality than the likes of Germany, France or the UK).

    And there is potential in the Balkan countries too, i think…at least the ones that aren’t just glorified NATO military bases. There have been signs of some independence of thought from Greece, Bulgaria, and even Croatia on occasion…but sadly these countries have very little sovereignty at the moment. They’ve been economically enslaved by the EU and can’t offer much real resistance. Even fiercely independent Serbia can’t do much because it is under constant political and economic pressure, despite not being in the EU or NATO, to fall in line with the “European project”.

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      maybe even Poland (who, as Atlanticist and Russophobic as they are, still appear to have more of a grip on reality than the likes of Germany, France or the UK).

      Hard to say with the pretty sharp turn right of mainstream left and liberals (same warmongering as PiS and taking them over from the right on racism), but with how important imports from China are for the Polish economy, even PiS straight up ignored US demands of antagonising China and so far there was no moves from the Polish side against China.

      Time will tell i guess, but current Polish govt seem very similar to the deluded eurocrats you described in your first post here.

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        with how important imports from China are for the Polish economy, even PiS straight up ignored US demands of antagonising China

        That’s one aspect. The other aspect which i was thinking of is how despite the tough anti-Russia rhetoric coming out of Poland, Poland has so far consistently refused the idea of sending troops to Ukraine whenever the UK and France have floated this proposal. This tells me that they at least have enough self-preservation instinct in Poland to recognize that, unlike the British and the French, they will be on the frontline of a NATO war against Russia and they know they will not enjoy being on the receiving end of Russian missiles.

        Poland also seems more willing to immediately bend the knee to the new US administration, unlike the Germans, French and British who still delude themselves into thinking that they are important or that the Europeans have any real power in their relationship with the US.