• @FG_3479@lemmy.world
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    1114 days ago

    You can get good Bluetooth earbuds for under $50 and a USB-C to AUX dongle for under $15.

    The average person is fine with Bluetooth earbuds or an adapter, and audiophiles would not find the inbuilt DAC/amp on a phone to be adequate.

    • @zod000@lemmy.ml
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      213 days ago

      My wired earbuds cost more than ten times that and will probably last me until I retire. The vast majority of those USB-c to 3.5mm adapters are cheap crap that have a worthless DAC and/or fall apart after a short time. I have purchased my wife three such adapters since she decided it was worth it to get a phone without a headphone jack and none of them have been good.

      I ended up having to buy her a separate portable music player to use. So thanks for that Google, Apple, and the rest of the greedy shithead OEMs.

      • @papertowels@mander.xyz
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        14 days ago

        If we revisit the “loud” vs “statistically significant” paradigm, while it is a shame you will not be able to charge the phone with a dac in without buying a specific cable, how often does the average person do so?

        • @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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          113 days ago

          so you need a dongle for the DAC, and an additional dongle for charging that is also, if I recall it correctly, violates the USB-C standard. did I understand it correctly?

          • @papertowels@mander.xyz
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            013 days ago

            Sure, for simplicities sake let’s just say it’s impossible.

            How many times has the average person needed to do so in a year?

            • @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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              013 days ago

              how many times does the average person use wireless charging? Seriously, I haven’t seen anyone do that yet, or know of someone who uses that.

              and yet that’s still a major feature in lots of phones

              • @papertowels@mander.xyz
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                13 days ago

                If I’ve asked a question twice and you’ve danced around it both times, that tells everyone what your answer is.

                • @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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                  111 days ago

                  someone who is often listening to music with their phone and wired headphones, or even just when arriving at home from work, is going to use both the charger and the jack at the same time frequently.

                  another scenario is if the person uses their phone as the microphone for their PC.

                  you can argue that both must be rare because you have never seen them done, that’s my exact opinion about wireless charging

                  • @papertowels@mander.xyz
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                    111 days ago

                    Funny you bring up wireless charging.

                    Does that not solve your proposed problem? You can use a usb-c to audio dongle, which often comes with better sound quality than a phones DAC, and wirelessly charge, even via many powerbanks. These are features found fairly commonly in today’s phones, so problem solved?

              • @dustyData@lemmy.world
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                012 days ago

                “It’s not in front of my face, so it doesn’t exists!”

                That’s literally the thinking abilities of a toddler. Wireless chargers sell like hotcakes. MagSafe charger is Apple’s most popular accessory in their entire history.

      • @46_and_2@lemmy.world
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        14 days ago

        Wirelessly.

        Or you switch to your bluetooth buds during a wired charge.

        I’m all for audio jacks, but have been using a phone without one for 4 years now, and there are so many options to not be incovenienced.

        Also I don’t use my audiophile headphones with the phone at all - DAC on it just isn’t good enough to get most out of then, prefer to use them with my desktop PC amp only.