Lawmakers in Florida are raising alarm over documents suggesting immigrant children and pregnant women could be detained at ‘Alligator Alcatraz.’

A draft operational plan obtained by the Miami Herald suggests minors could indeed be transported to the controversial site in the Everglades. The 35-page undated document details protocols to “separate minors from unrelated adults” and to provide “snacks and water” to minors, pregnant women and detainees with medical conditions during transport.

“The State of Florida is planning to send pregnant women and children to the ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ detention camp,” wrote State Senator Carlos Guillermo Smith on social media. “This is totally un-American. We cannot be silent.”

  • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    421 days ago

    Honestly, how is it any better to send young men there? I’m not wild about sending pregnant women and children there obviously, but…are we indicating that men don’t matter?

    • @MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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      1521 days ago

      It said pregnant women and children. Which are both vulnerable populations that are more at risk for death from severe heat stress and malnutrition and stress .

    • @fodor@lemmy.zip
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      21 days ago

      Honestly, did you look at any of the pictures? You think people with delicate health conditions should be sent there? Really?

      Also, I’m assuming you’re genuine, but there are many people who post similar comments, things like “All lives matter.” And yes, human life is worth respect, but at the same time, you don’t want to be confused with a bigoted troll.

    • @CXORA@aussie.zone
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      -121 days ago

      A lot of our culture accepts and promotes the idea that men are inherently dangerous.

      It is a depressing reality that to most people men (as a social class) are less important than others.

      • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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        1321 days ago

        I think it’s nice actually that we can recognize that pregnant women and children are more vulnerable groups of people that sometimes require more protection than men. I say that as a man.

        • I second this. I am nowhere near as vulnerable as a pregnant woman or a child. I choose to put myself below them, as they are in the position of such vulnerability. I’m personally okay with that.

        • @hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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          321 days ago

          Yep, there is not a big cabal of pregnant women having concentration caps built to hold white men. Not all men are dangerous, but more are than pregnant women.

        • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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          220 days ago

          I for one am glad that at least some on the right are still reachable on this matter.

          But if they were okay with subjecting men they deem less than to this, it’s still rather alarming, since it’s not that much of a leap to then pushing pregnant women and children into the same conditions, if they are considered part of the same group.

        • @CXORA@aussie.zone
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          119 days ago

          Human rights protections for men can also protect pregnant women and children.

          Indeed, protecting human rights universally makes them harder to chip away at.

          The more loopholes we, as a society, allow in our morality the weaker it is.

          • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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            019 days ago

            Sure, but there are some protections that apply to pregnant women and children that don’t apply to men. Ignoring that in the name of “equality” or dismissing that as “loopholes in morality” seems off base to me.

            • @CXORA@aussie.zone
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              118 days ago

              Why? All people should be spared inhuman behaviour.

              I’m sorry but “i don’t like equality” feels like nonsense to me. Men should have every potection afforded to others.we should protect all people to the best of our ability.

      • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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        320 days ago

        That’s what I guess gets me. Of course we want to protect those that are even more at risk, but why does it take it going that far to talk about the fact that there is risk for anyone being held under such conditions?