It literally is not Valve’s problem to handle what goes on off their platform.
If somebody wants to attempt that, uh, good luck? The US is currently run by fascists, all the fascists in government probably are not going to prioritize policing younger, dumber fascists.
If you just put all this burden on Steam, what you end up with is Steam gets massively censored in way more ways than just discussion forums.
But yes, I agree, I say, also just get rid of Steam Groups, entirely.
Just, boink, gone, don’t need em.
Nobody ever uses them for anything serious, they are basically always shit post zones, at best.
Thats what I meant where I elsewhere more or less said ‘nuke everything that isn’t your personal profile and stuff you publish personally’.
Sure, keep some ability for commenting on like, user’s screenshots, stuff people upload to the workshop, mods, comprehensive guides.
But, its the uploader’s job to moderate them, just offer something like ‘hold all comments for personal vetting or keyword filter scan’ before they appear.
Pretty sure those options already exist in other contexts on Steam, but yeah, I am fully down with Steam just cleaning house on almost everything.
I also think that asking for more serious moderation on more platforms is a good idea, but the problem is always going to be having the resources to do that, as well as uh, facsists aren’t going to investigate themselves.
Only other paradigm is to basically require a kind of NetID that either is your government ID or is tied directly to it, for all kinds of public discussion software, and once you do that, well, again, the government is fascists, so now if you criticize them, off to jail for you.
You initially said whales who buy tons of games, I assume you mean individuals with 1000+ games on their steam account, buys all the dlc and mtx and loot crates, that kind of whale.
Now you are reffering to… the US government as a whale?
What are you suggesting… be done?
… and by whom?
Are you suggesting Valve functionally commit hara-kiri by … some kind of intentionally angering the fascist government?
What are you suggesting, that Valve fund investigators to link Steam accounts to other platforms and websites, and then… report that knowledge to… the government?
They wouldn’t do anything other than sue Valve out of existence for being antifa.
Valve cannot like… arrest people, issue themselves search warrants, … and if they did set up a system to do something like this, kablamo, now it is instantly turned around to hunt down trans people after Valve is sued into a government buy out or being purchased by fucking Larry Ellison.
Please, explain to me what you are trying to suggest, I don’t get it.
I would think that them just getting rid of much of their discussion ‘zones’ would be something they could do without pissing off the fascists, and also just being a net good in general…
… whereas if they kept all their steam groups and discussion forums, but instead, specifically began to more heavily moderate / remove right wing extremists from those discussion zones, I would think that would be much more likely to piss off the fascists.
Basically, I don’t think the fascists in government really even understand fully what Steam is, everything it does, but, if they heard it was cracking down specifically on fascists, that would draw more heat to them than if they just removed features which are, imo, just a net negative anyway.
I don’t think the fascists in government really even understand fully what Steam is
Did you click the “🇺🇲’s RMVP” link? Elon Musk and Barron Trump know what Steam is, they have accounts, and were both livestreaming with their accounts.
You don’t need to ban whales on steam who have tons of games.
Just get rid of or massively downsize steam community forums and group discussions.
They don’t need to exist.
Whales can still be whales and write an angry game review or whatever, but we don’t need discussion forums on Steam for every possible fucking thing.
Sure, but they’ll congregate on 8chan, discord, kiwifarms, their websites, etc… You’ll also need to tackle Steam groups too. Too many of them.
Nazis are worse than roaches, you need to eradicate everywhere lest you suffer their mob campaigns.
It literally is not Valve’s problem to handle what goes on off their platform.
If somebody wants to attempt that, uh, good luck? The US is currently run by fascists, all the fascists in government probably are not going to prioritize policing younger, dumber fascists.
If you just put all this burden on Steam, what you end up with is Steam gets massively censored in way more ways than just discussion forums.
But yes, I agree, I say, also just get rid of Steam Groups, entirely.
Just, boink, gone, don’t need em.
Nobody ever uses them for anything serious, they are basically always shit post zones, at best.
Thats what I meant where I elsewhere more or less said ‘nuke everything that isn’t your personal profile and stuff you publish personally’.
Sure, keep some ability for commenting on like, user’s screenshots, stuff people upload to the workshop, mods, comprehensive guides.
But, its the uploader’s job to moderate them, just offer something like ‘hold all comments for personal vetting or keyword filter scan’ before they appear.
Pretty sure those options already exist in other contexts on Steam, but yeah, I am fully down with Steam just cleaning house on almost everything.
I also think that asking for more serious moderation on more platforms is a good idea, but the problem is always going to be having the resources to do that, as well as uh, facsists aren’t going to investigate themselves.
Only other paradigm is to basically require a kind of NetID that either is your government ID or is tied directly to it, for all kinds of public discussion software, and once you do that, well, again, the government is fascists, so now if you criticize them, off to jail for you.
Yeah, that’s the precise whale I’m talking about. Imagine upsetting your landlord and despot.
I don’t follow.
You initially said whales who buy tons of games, I assume you mean individuals with 1000+ games on their steam account, buys all the dlc and mtx and loot crates, that kind of whale.
Now you are reffering to… the US government as a whale?
What are you suggesting… be done?
… and by whom?
Are you suggesting Valve functionally commit hara-kiri by … some kind of intentionally angering the fascist government?
What are you suggesting, that Valve fund investigators to link Steam accounts to other platforms and websites, and then… report that knowledge to… the government?
They wouldn’t do anything other than sue Valve out of existence for being antifa.
Valve cannot like… arrest people, issue themselves search warrants, … and if they did set up a system to do something like this, kablamo, now it is instantly turned around to hunt down trans people after Valve is sued into a government buy out or being purchased by fucking Larry Ellison.
Please, explain to me what you are trying to suggest, I don’t get it.
I comprehend you’re saying that Valve should get rid off forums and groups.
I’m saying they can’t, the “US” will
freeze their assets, revoke their business licences, put them on a watchlist, and deathcamp Valve & affiliates.
Valve’s hands are fascistically tied to 🇺🇲’s RMVP.¹
¹ def. of RMVP
Ooooh, ok.
I would think that them just getting rid of much of their discussion ‘zones’ would be something they could do without pissing off the fascists, and also just being a net good in general…
… whereas if they kept all their steam groups and discussion forums, but instead, specifically began to more heavily moderate / remove right wing extremists from those discussion zones, I would think that would be much more likely to piss off the fascists.
Basically, I don’t think the fascists in government really even understand fully what Steam is, everything it does, but, if they heard it was cracking down specifically on fascists, that would draw more heat to them than if they just removed features which are, imo, just a net negative anyway.
Did you click the “🇺🇲’s RMVP” link? Elon Musk and Barron Trump know what Steam is, they have accounts, and were both livestreaming with their accounts.